12-01-2015 10:09 AM
well im nearing 50.... did you ever have to go through gettting slapped........the cane...or a slap upside the head?
I got all of the above on a regular basis...... was I bad? nope...talking in class...not lining up in the corridor properly
books not backed to their standard (we used left over wallpaper then)...........basically anything out of line
when I told our ones (when they asked) about discipline when I was young........... they can't believe it
When my da told them how it was a generation before......they where gobsmacked
12-01-2015 12:02 PM
Didn't have physical punishment but the constant belittling and emotional threats were just as bad and probably even more damaging because of course there were favourites who always got away with things because their parents were 'rich' or influential.
12-01-2015 12:21 PM
Went to an all-girls school, I remember a whole-class detention because we all (sheep!) decided to play up in a weak teacher's class - and we liked her, too. No physical punishment ever, though we did get "good" and "bad" marks which were read out in assembly every so often.
But - nowadays, with no physical punishment at all for the last what, thirty years?
Did any of your teachers get murdered in class by a pupil?
Did any of the pupils at your schools (literally) shove teachers around?
Did any of the pupils at your schools have a fight outside school on a Friday, and come into school on Monday - with knives - to carry on the fight in the corridors at break time?
I think we've gone very badly wrong somewhere.
12-01-2015 12:42 PM - edited 12-01-2015 12:43 PM
We used to get a ruler across our fingers, and if you pulled your hand away or flinched, you got it again. This was in primary school.
In high school we didn't get physical punishment, just detention, lines or extra homework. We did get the wooden blackboard cleaner thrown across the room at us if we were talking.
If we were seen anywhere out of school even at the weekend with our school blazer on and not our felt hat complete with elastic under our chin, we'd get a detention!
It was like this but in blue. We were 14, 15, 16, at the time! I can just see it now!
12-01-2015 2:20 PM
Having to wear that was punishment.
12-01-2015 2:23 PM
god CG the ruler!!
the teacher from hell, actually got a metal ruler and slapped us with it
the ruler was M shaped so I had two lacerations on my hand...........same as you, if you pulled your hand away (which is a natural response) it caught the end of your fingers
and to top it off that didnt count so you got another one
12-01-2015 2:56 PM
We had green berets in the winter & straw boaters in the summer. They made good frisbees! lol
12-01-2015 3:07 PM
Don't talk to me about getting the cane! I "got the wack" so often, in the end it had absolutely no effect on me whatsoever! Towards the end I just took it as the school curriculum that every Monday morning I would be caned. It was a private boarding school in the early '60's. We were put into three "houses" with the best marks attained academically winning a coverted prize. Unfortunately fellow boarder and bosom pal Kipper - not his real name, was in the same house as me, so between us we pulled everybody else down, so out house never won! If you picked up three bad house marks or more per week, you'd "get the wack". Neither of us were any good at Latin which was where all the bad house points used to come from. It was a ridiculous system - they didn't offer help, they'd just cane you, to which you'd proudly display your "stripes" as you changed for bed. Dispite everything else - it was the best school I'd ever been to. It was a school you'd be proud of - I know that's a dirty word these days, but the school teachers really did care. There were nogrills - no 8' high gates. It was a school - not a prison. Some did well at Latin and carried on to become doctors, dentists and vets, but not me. I never lost out though. I've had a good life, working for the same insurance set-up in the City - London for forty-one years before taking retirement.
Unfortunately now you can't even raise your voice to a child, let alone a cane. If you misbehaved - and you did, you were caned. Simple as that. Now you've got an army of social workers, child pshchaitrists and God knows who else all jumping on the band waggon. Left to their own devices, most kids will progress normally, but if every time some highfaloutin anylist wants to know why little Johnny was kept in after hours, his prognosis is going to be negative.
One week just after I had joined the school, one of the hkids saw my a bit quiet in the playground. Like a fool, I told hime I was due to be caned on Monday. He gritted his teeth and shook his head.
"Christ, Woody, you're gonna scream! Blood's gonna run down the back of your legs "
When some kid asked me what it was like, I told him matron would pour vinegar on the backside to heal where the weals had cut into your legs! !!!
12-01-2015 3:28 PM - edited 12-01-2015 3:29 PM
gawd fred............... that is so awful.
have to say though..... we took punishment too as the norm
and it didnt affect me negatively
12-01-2015 3:57 PM
We used to get six of the best with the ruler when I was in primary school. When I moved to an all girls secondary school, we'd get detention or lines. If we were told off for anything, we certainly knew about it. If they did in schools now, the kids and their parents would think that it was awful. It never did any of us any harm.
12-01-2015 4:02 PM
12-01-2015 4:40 PM
It shouldn't affect anybody negatively. You grew up fast in boarding school - very fast lol. If Sir liked his porridge with a touch of salt instead of sugar to bring out the full flavour, so did you, even if it made you want to throw up! You were young adults. You'd never see a prefect in the library with a comic - he'd be reading the Telegraph or something.
You were never homesick. You enjoyed your end of term holidays, yes, loved your parents? Mmm... possibly - in an abstract sort of way, but you never actually missed them. That might sound strange - hurtful even, but you were all in the same boat, metaphorically - you all had carreer parents. I'd spent most of my life commuting between Cyprus and the UK where my late father worked overseas to put us through private school, and later I used to fly out to Burma to see him during the long school holidays, so being away from home was nothing.
The second you walked through those school doors, your fellow boarders became your brothers. We used to talk about our parents' respective jobs but there was no boasting. We all accepted our parents were that bit better off with properties in Golders Green and Hampstead.(arty London suburbs). It wasn't until we tried to get jobs of our own did we find we couldn't fly halfway across the world first-class, and we very quickly came down to earth with a bump! .
12-01-2015 7:33 PM
Like many others I received physical punishment in junior school, detention in senior school, none of which did any lasting harm that I know of. BUT that can only work if meted out by a teacher with some sense of justice, too many punishments (with hindsight) were given for trivial reasons just because the teached didn't happen to like you. These days there seems to be no form of discipline in or out of schools and some children just run riot and learn to disrespect just about everybody. When my children were at school I insisted that none of them were to receive physical punishment unless I was present, not to protect my child as such, just to ensure that their "crime" really did fit the punishment.
12-01-2015 7:45 PM
The 'sadist' teacher could get away with almost murder in those times.
on 12-01-2015 8:01 PM - last edited on 12-01-2015 8:03 PM by kshah008
Junior school we got slapped on the back of the legs with a ruler. Boys got the cane and some male teacher used to slipper the girls on the bottom!!!!! good job I wasn't in his class.
In high school, I didn't get physical punishment, but emotional was just as bad, one **bleep** of a teacher. I don't think it damaged me in any way. The emotional and physical trauma at home was worse.
12-01-2015 8:31 PM
I was belted once, for not getting an algebra test right in secondary school. The teacher (maths Mr Chisholm) was magic as a rule and used to flick sixpennny bits to anyone who gave a really intelligent answer.
He so wanted for me to do well at maths, but I could not get my head round algebra. He belted me because he said I was capable of passing.
I gave up maths in 3rd year and when I used to meet him in the school I would always say 'you were a right sh*t for belting me then' (you could say that to him, very eccentric), and he would laugh.
My husband has an OU Maths Degree and reads weird books, and quotes bits to me and I want to die of boredom. Still cannoit do algebra. What's that all about a + b = some bleeding thing, nuts
12-01-2015 9:39 PM - edited 12-01-2015 9:40 PM
I believe I hold the dubious record for being the oldest person ever to get slippered at my school, when I was in the 5th form ( whatever that translates to in the modern "year number" system )...
13-01-2015 12:29 AM
At primary school I used to get a ruler across the hand for talking in class after being told not to, or sometimes stood in the corner (didn't think of that as a punishment, just looked at the Nature Table!)
At high school we got detentions, my whole class got it once because the teacher wasn't sure who to blame - can't remember what is was for but we had to write 100 times "We must not abuse our privileges" . Like CG we had to have the hated school hat (in our case a beret with the school badge) on our heads when walking to and from school. I used to pin mine on the back of my head, and back comb my hair over it so the prefects couldn't see it and when accused of not wearing it I used to turn round and show them!
I think it was a bad mistake to get rid of these punishments. I suppose some teachers "abused their privileges", but none of ours ever did.
13-01-2015 8:29 AM
As a 7yr old in junior school we had knitting lessons, if we made a mistake in the knitting we would go and stand by the teacher (she was head teacher then) for her to sort it out, I had dropped a stitch so a massive hole appeared in my dish cloth, when she picked the stitch up I got a slap across the back of my knees for dropping that stitch!
13-01-2015 8:54 AM
That must have made you feel a right knit oops, sorry, nit.