Saudi Mufti says deaths "beyond human control"

[fallen-archie]

With over 700 pilgrims crushed to death in a stampede surely it's time that such events were subjected to greater scrutiny and planning. It is difficult to understand why a high profile event of great significance is allowed to continue regardless? Surely controls should be put in place to minimise the danger to those fulfilling their wish to attend the Hajj. I think that the religious leaders must be held accountable and start to recognise that the world has moved on. Will there be a full open public enquiry, who will compensate the families affected by the deaths. Who will stand up and demand answers and who will have the courage to face this head on at a time when there is so much censorship designed to protect but used to control.

To start with they would benefit from better stewarding, crowd movement control, H&S advice to all visitors, multi lingual signage. During the Stoning of the Devil when pilgrims throw a number of pebbles at three specific walls it would seem reasonable to issue protective goggles and bump caps.

[bankhaunter]

It is certainly a stark reminder that large crowds can be very dangerous places to be in.

[lightblueberet]

The Heysel tragedy comes to mind !  

[bankhaunter]

After the fieworks at the end of the Lord Mayor's Show, the nearest Underground stations are always closed to prevent overcrowding.

[fallen-archie]

There are very few events that can be compared to the Hajj, numbers attending are huge which is why carefully planned controls are so necessary if the horror experienced this year is to be prevented.

I am surprised at the number of views this thread has had against the number of posts. As a humanitarian topic I wonder if some have been disappointed that there are no grounds for reporting it, if that is the case it is a sad indictment of where the RT and eBay forums sit in 2015.

There are lots of topics to discuss, the question remains whether we can do so with such heavy monitoring and narrow definition on the part of those who seek to control the input and output.