Roulette computers - do they really work?

[5129frederick]

There are scores of companies selling "roulette computers" which apparently analize previous winning numbers and claim to be able to predict with anything up to 85% accuracy the most likely winning number coming up next.  They sound too good to be true.  Are they?  Has anybody you know bought one of these machines and tried them out?  At around £100.00 they're certainly not cheap.  If my o/h found out about it, it would be curtains for me.  Of all gaming machines, virtual roulette - the type you can play in Ladbrokes is by far the most addictive.  The most I ever won was £130.00 but all I did was pay a couple of bills with it, so I had nothing to show for it.  The main problem is the odds: at 35/1 twelve seconds into the game you can walk out with realmoney.  The biggest danger is that on a bad day you end up chasing your losses.  I've actually lost £70.00 in half-an-hour.  So are these hand held "computers" any good, or is the only winner the manufacturer?  I tend to ster clear of theses machines.  It's hopeless trying to get onto one lunchtime.  They apparently pull in round about £6000.00 per machine per week so there are a lot of big time losers out there!

[cee-dee]

It's a mugs game.

[blackburn_stevie]

Frederick ..... There is only one sure fire winner at the roulette table and it ain't the punter laying down his hard earned cash. Having said that, there is a way to lose a lot less than you would expect from the ordinary spin of the wheel. What's more, I shall give it to you for free, gratis, costing nowt. Just remember that this only works on a UK roulette wheel with just the one Zero. It also only works if you have lots of time to spare and you are not out to make a fast buck. However, it does work. I have used the system myself to take over £875 from a casino in Blackpool.

First off, here is a Roulette table so you can follow what I'm banging on about.

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/5tevie/roulette_zps284496ba.jpeg

[blackburn_stevie]

A lot of my post got missed there and I have no time to write it again so I'll try again later.

Sorry about that.

[ronnie-dog]

surely you only have to bet on black.  (or red)

ie 

1st go -  1pound on black - black comes up you get 1 + 1, red comes up you get 0

2nd go if red came up - put 2pound on black - black comes up you get 2 + 2, red comes up you get 0

3rd go if red came up - put 4pound on black - black comes up you get 4 +4,   etc etc

eventually black will come up, and you win,.albeit only 1pound profit, but profit is profit.

[upthecreekyetagain]

surely you only have to bet on black.  (or red)

ie 

1st go -  1pound on black - black comes up you get 1 + 1, red comes up you get 0

2nd go if red came up - put 2pound on black - black comes up you get 2 + 2, red comes up you get 0

3rd go if red came up - put 4pound on black - black comes up you get 4 +4,   etc etc

eventually black will come up, and you win,.albeit only 1pound profit, but profit is profit.

The theory sounds good Ronnie but the maths goes against it.

The system you describe depends on two assumptions - unlimited funds and unlimited table limits.

As soon as either exist, (limited funds or fixed table limits. table limits),

To keep it simple let's assume either you have a fixed amount of £63 to bet or the table has a limit of £63.  On a single zero wheel the odds of getting five losses in a row are 1 in 28 but on your fifth bet you are betting £32 to win overall just £1 - in other words the odds are against you.

The more losses in a row you extrapolate the higher the odds go against you until eventually you will reach either the limit you have to gamble or the limit the casino will allow you to gamble.

[blackburn_stevie]

OK, I'll try again.

Ignore the image of a roulette table that I put up. That was the European version. The UK version is here ......

http://tinyurl.com/dywkdtj

Now you have to work out how you will be betting. For this method you use "Units" (for want of a better word) and in this instance a Unit is £1.00. Just remember that it is you who decides what a Unit is and that all that matters is that, on each spin of the wheel, each Unit is the same.

OK, this is what you do.

One unit goes on the 1 - 34 line at odds of 2/1

One unit goes on the 2 - 35 line at odds of 2/1

One unit goes on Red at odds of even money.

There are only 5 numbers on the wheel which will make you lose all of your stake. They are,  6, 15, 24, 33 and zero. On the other hand, there are 32 numbers where you get more than your stake, exactly your stake or slightly less than your stake.

It is a long way to a small profit and some casinos don't like you doing it.

[mikes*corvettes]

There are only 5 numbers on the wheel which will make you lose all of your stake. They are,  6, 15, 24, 33 and zero. On the other hand, there are 32 numbers where you get more than your stake, exactly your stake or slightly less than your stake.

It is a long way to a small profit and some casinos don't like you doing it.

The other way to look at it is that this way there are only 10 numbers that show a return. The rest you either lose all your stake or a third of it. So you've only got a 26% chance of showing a profit.

[mustard-tree]

Steve, when you used that method, what was your unit price and how long did it take to reach you winning amount.

[salfordmarinade]

The short answer is that they are a waste of money

Statistics are useful for some things, but have little to say about others

If the units being sold are meant just to log and compile data, with the intent of checking for any bias, a laptop with a spreadsheet application would be better
Online gaming will be unlikely to have an actual physical wheel, just a random number generator, which is what you would be testing for bias
The only real way of winning long term, is to be able to actually change your odds viz those of the house, which is what happens with card counting.With roulette you are left with checking for any bias in either the equipment or software used.These days that isn't likely and even then it says nothing about short run events either

[5129frederick]

Stevie came up with an interesting point about there being only five numbers in which you can lose all your stake money at one go, although 0 seems to draw semi-pro's and greenhorns alike like a magnet.  I tried doing the martingale system on one particular number - I soon ran out of money!  I normally set myself a maximum I am prepared to lose, and start the ball rolling by putting £20.00 into the kitty, although I've seen high flyers feeding in £50.00 notes like toilet paper, WIN £1100.00 and walk out poker faced, thoroughly bored.  People in the City area of London play for high stakes.  I've won three figure sums of money before, but ended up paying bills with it, so there's nothing to show for my efforts.  I pulled out just in time, when I found myself drawing money out of the bank to chase my losses.  That was when I knew I had to knock it on the head.  I really mean this - virtual roulette is every bit as addictive as coke!  When you think roulette machines pull in an average of £6000.00 per weekyou come to realise just how many big time gamblers there are in London - thank God I'm not one of them.

As an aside, roulette is called the Devil's game, because if you add up all the numbers between 1 and 36 it comes to the magical figure of - you've guessed it - 666!:^O

[blackburn_stevie]

M-T ..... I have to take you back to around 1985 when Aggie and I had a Ford Transit, hi-top, camper van. We used to finish work on Friday and head for Mecca bingo in Blackpool. When they chucked us out we went off to the Castle Casino on the prom and stayed overnight on their car park, had brekkie in the morning and then set off for Fleetwood for some Duty-Free.

The unit scale depended a lot on if we had won at the Bingo, , but as a general rule we had £30 to fritter away in the Casino. (Last of the big spenders, eh?) Anyway, I always watched the wheel for a while and waited until I could get a seal at the bottom end. Once seated, I used £1.00 units, win or lose until either the money was gone or I had £60.00 on the table. If the former we went to bed crying. If the latter then £30.00 went in Aggie's purse with a rule that it wasn't to be brought out again and we carried on playing. When I say "WE", Aggie would normally leave me to it and go off for a chat with friends of for a coffee etc. Anyway, now the unit price went up to £2.00 but the £60.00 rule stayed the same except sometimes it was Aggie's purse and sometimes it was my pocket. The only thing that changed was that the unit price went up by £1.00 every cycle until it got to £10.00, 'cos that meant £30.00 per spin of the wheel. As luck would have it, #14 came out so that was a winner. I was now about £170.00 in pocket and watching for Aggie 'cos I was being a bad lad here. I just kept leaving the winnings on the table, 1/3rd on each line and red for 3 more spins and won every time. Then I chickened out and took it all off. I had to get the chips exchanged for cash out of Aggie's view 'cos she had no idea how much I had won but when we got back to the van and we were sat having a brew, she asked, "Did you win much?" and I took a fistfull of fivers out of my pocket and just showered her with them.

And before you all ask, 19 was the next number.

[ronnybabes]

surely you only have to bet on black.  (or red)

ie 

1st go -  1pound on black - black comes up you get 1 + 1, red comes up you get 0

2nd go if red came up - put 2pound on black - black comes up you get 2 + 2, red comes up you get 0

3rd go if red came up - put 4pound on black - black comes up you get 4 +4,   etc etc

eventually black will come up, and you win,.albeit only 1pound profit, but profit is profit.

You miss one vital piece of the equation "ronnie"  - the number zero, imagine zero coming up twice on the trot, or even 3 times. I have seen numbers including zero do a 5 timer many times. I have also seen the same number (especially zero) repeat itself many times in the space of an hour.

I used to work in the gambling industry.

Luck is what you need.

[plasterboardfixings]

There is one gentleman that sells them on Ebay with a near 100% positive success , he has successfully demonstrated  them to the Guardian Newspaper and a team of scientists, He had only one bad negative feedback. So I emailed the guy who had given him negative feedback who replied that the device works and it were for sale. So he has100% feedback on the product working. I have visited the gentleman and it works( I live in Sheffield), I have tried it myself successfully, but cannot afford one yet. The Evolution was amazing. He has his results and video on Ebay. I emailed some of his other customers from around the world  and they say it works too. They are legal in most parts of the world too. I suggest and one that does not believe these work,don't contact me, to go and try them yourselves. Also they are not for the online or bookie machines, these are a scam and the gentleman explained why, so I would avoid playing machines in bookies even for fun.

[mitko_k]

Hello budies,

just was surfing here about the topics for more info about to buy myself a real roulette in home and found this blog, I could say by the topic that I also do have this device that "vinylvinney" speak about, just receive it few weeks ago and in some days learn how to use it, I could recognize that I have problem with the gambling at all but like usually often is to lose than to win, I like playing most of slots and by coincidence like month ago I found this seller searching info about gambling, then did some research between the seller reviews and seems like interesting, then put me in contact with him for some explinations about. the man was very pleasure and told me that I could pay firstly only one part of the device to test it and just when test it and with part of the winnings to pay the rest - seemed like so attractive. like gambler I prefered to try it because it was better to invest £300 than lose them in the slots again and also the info the seller gave me and all explinations of the device seems me reasonable and logicly and also £300 are not so much money(just spend them in one good night to go on bars and take some drinks with friends:-))), after maybe 3-4 days I receive it, so pretty surprise taiking in mind that I live in Spain and the seller is from UK. Really so so so easy to use also having all support needed from the seller(somtimes I thought that I am so tedious for him but he never told me nothing, heheh:-))) I made some test on roulette video spins he send me also with the package - really seems working, in few days I went to casino, this time leaving the slots on my back and unusually for me went to the roulette tables, hehe:-))) maybe have played in my gambling live 2 or 3 times roulette(I always prefered slots), just like half an hour I was looking at the wheel without betting with curiosity if the device will predict me hidden in my pocket the correct numbers, was amazing - likely often it was hiting the correct zone, just waiting for some chinese guys to go away from the table because there were really so many people and only 3 roulette tables opened, I start playing betting on the preferible zone that device was hinting me each time, really there were some wins and also some loses but this time having discipline(not like before on the slots just play for addiction) I really could see that in 40-50minutes of playing I had like 250€ more in my pocket(because of one black chip more I've kept in the pocket more that when I started) and just was playing with little amounts-with chips by value of 2.5€ - it was my first win. the next day another training in the PC of my work(on the videos I have) and again to play all the weekend. now more or less 1 month after all(or a little bit more) with all the money from this playings I have earned I am looking for to buy my own roulette wheel from e-bay sellers(maybe £1200 to £1500 worth) for training in home because it is more practically from the videos I think or just maybe ffom myself obsession, hehe:-))) I cordially recommend if you would like to try it really it deserve

....JUST NO MORE SLOTS, ONLY BEAT THE ROULETTE, hehe!:-)))

[786_raza]

purchased the roulette computer and it actually does work. went to his house he trained me to use it. quite simple once u pick up the technique behind it. would definitely recommend the gadget!

[plasterboardfixings]

These Roulette Computers do work in Real casinos.

Well lucky I got the chance of the training with the Roulette Computers before I purchased, it certainly paid off. I spent 3 hours in the casino and the first table I struggled get the results. So I were bang level on my bank roll. 🙂 Then I realised I had not applied what I had learned earlier that day. I studied two more wheels and decided to chose one that exhibited a slight obvious tilt. 

First few chips I placed, bingo, Hit it 🙂

My bank profits just soared and I did not need to change any more money. Cashed out overall £530 Profit, not bad for one evenings work. Everything just fell into place the last 2 hours I were in there. I were tired, so decided to leave with what I though was about £300 profit, over the moon it were £530 profit.

Its a clever little device for the money and well worth every cent!

The product is genuine

[plasterboardfixings]

What I did Find with all these sellers selling Roulette Computers for beating Roulette were that ONLY ONE sold through Ebay and PAYPAL. The other Sellers want you to pay by bank transfer where you cannot get your money back if it does not work like the vendor claims. Avoid Australia selling such equipment, their government turns a blind eye to scammers their. Won again last night, only £360, but still , I won! I do not want to be too greedy 

[fai6573domi7]

Some one help me I need to buy on this rolluette computer plz help me I don't know anything . 

[mustard-tree]

That is why all roulette tables have a maximum bet