Will anyone listen to Tebbit?

[cee-dee]

They didn't listen to Enoch so will people listen to Tebbit?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/immigrant-societies-warning-given-165828142.html#yxU55Q3

[margaret*e]

No, he'll soon be called a racist, as is anyone with valid concerns.

[millielilac]

Some people will agree with him ....some will not...

The point about the veil in a courtroom is very valid . I recall doing jury service many years ago and we were told that we should observe the general demeanour of the person on trial.

If a person is veiled this is not possible . Even if the person removes the veil when giving evidence ...their demeanour for the rest of the time could not be observed.

[cee-dee]

The veil is a side issue, it was the failure to integrate and the recreation of immigrants own countries here which is the main concern.

[upthecreekyetagain]

There is no comparison between the views expressed by Mr Tebbit and some of those expressed by Mr Powell - most notably in his "Rivers of Blood" speech.

Supporters of Enoch Powell and the man himself would no doubt describe Norman Tebbit as a left wing liberal based on the views expressed in that article.

I am a believer in the free movement of people on this globe of ours and don't subscribe to the view that certain areas should be out of bounds depending on where you happened to have been born.

I do however believe that if you move into a society that has differing customs and language to your own then it is your duty to learn that language so that you can communicate and not to try and impose your customs, (including religion), on the majority.  Likewise it is good manners for the majority to tolerate the customs of the newcomer.

In other words, like Norman Tebbit, I'm happy to see a variety of cultures, (multi-culturism), in the UK but not separate cultures.  Where I may differ from Mr Tebbit is that I believe that achieving a multi-cultural society is not a one sided duty, it is just as important that the hosts embrace the cultures of the newcomers as it is for them to embrace those of the host population.

[merehazle]

Yes, 'anyone with a valid concern':

The words of Enoch Powell, who may have been one of the few in history who, when needed, had the level of ideological detachment and objective vision of  history - to-come needed to prevent future social collapses and chaos:

''The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary.

By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.''

This far sighted intellectual, besmirched by people who where not fit to lick his boots clean, had the humanity to painlessly prevent what  is surely to come.

Will anyone listen to the people?

[upthecreekyetagain]

"This far sighted intellectual, besmirched by people who where not fit to lick his boots clean, had the humanity to painlessly prevent what  is surely to come."

The same man who posed the question, "What's wrong with racism?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9349376/Enoch-Powell-was-wrong.html