24-07-2020 1:42 AM
I have already seen protests from people saying if there ever is a vaccine for Covid-19 they will refuse to have it ! This I do not understand because this vaccine (if it ever transpires) could help save your life and possibly save all the brave workers already having put themselves in harms way from doing so again.
I have my own opinion on what should happen but it might be too controversial for this forum.
I will gladly have the vaccine if it transpires and at least gives me some protection.
24-07-2020 6:32 AM
If and when a Covid 19 vaccine becomes available, I won't be having it.
24-07-2020 10:13 AM
I will. Do you have the Flu vaccine? I do.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
24-07-2020 10:28 AM
If a vaccine does become available at some point and it is proven to work then I'll have it, especially if it means that as a result of doing so we stand a better chance of being able to get back to the kind of life we were living pre-Covid, where for the most part we didn't have any serious cause to worry about catching anything nasty if somebody was less 6' 6" away from us.
24-07-2020 12:16 PM
24-07-2020 3:35 PM
No Suzie...I am not anti other vaccines. I have the usual flu vaccine every year with out fail..with no problems. But I won't be having the Covid 19 vaccine if and when it comes. I just have a gut feeling against it, and I always trust my gut feelings. Maybe it's something to do with the unseemly rush and haste in getting it out there, and the government pushing and pushing...I don't know. And I'm not an 'anti-vaxer'..I had all my children vaccinated and would do again if I had any. There is something that doesn't quite add up about the whole COVID-19 thing. So they can stick their Covid 19 vaccine where the sun don't shine.😀😀
24-07-2020 5:16 PM
26-07-2020 3:20 AM
astro, I would not be the least surprised if the Chinese come up with a vaccine very soon to outdo all the other countries in the race ! Right from the start I said they had something to do with the release of it because they are ruthless enough to do that and have been working on a vaccine, have it and see a way to make even more money from the other countries in the world.
God I am getting very cynical in my old age.
28-07-2020 2:32 PM
It's not cynical! I mentioned previously that in my opinion there is much about this Coronavirus Pandemic that doesn't quite add up. I just watched a TV interview (CBS, I think) with Bill Gates being interviewed by a Lady ..I think her name is O'Donnell? She is asking him about the fact that the trial vaccines have shown some side effects..he seems to brush them off. But the thing that got me was when he said that they will need more 'elderly' trial volunteers! The very people who are being polished off by this virus. I wonder will he try it himself! I still won't be going anywhere near this vaccine. The interview an be seen on FB.
28-07-2020 2:59 PM
I agree with you that there is something that doesn't quite add up about the whole thing. In the UK they built several 1000+ bed temporary hospitals. Some time later and a one line mention somewhere that one of them was empty and I've never heard of them again. Presumably closed and dis-mantled.
Yes, most of the population did the decent thing and stayed at home for weeks. You could even count that they were never needed as a success. "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst" comes to mind.
But what about the Favellas in S. America? Too crowded to allow social distancing, with populations too poor to pay for PPE or medical attention. The media were anticipating swathes of those living in them getting infected, with huge numbers dying. Did that happen?
Even worse was the situation in India. Millions of day labourers living in crowded slums with similar lack of resources to S. America. Infections started to climb. Then the cities were locked down. Without work (and food) the millions poured out and crammed together at bus and train stations for days, then began walking back to their home-villages. Again a spreading wave of infections was expected to follow them across the country. Did that happen?
In some ways the whole thing seems almost like a drill, a dummy run or a dress rehearsal. Yes, many did end up in hospitals and significant numbers perished. But somehow millions of poor, possibly malnourished people, left to fend for themselves with little or no medical attention, protective gear or space to isolate just didn't get it. Although they were expected to be decimated, they weren't. That seems a tad odd to me. So do several other things about this Pandemic.
28-07-2020 3:08 PM
I think selective reading (of news reports) has a lot to do with our take on the situations abroard.
On top of that, there's selective reporting. "Official" figures say one thing, "unofficial" reports say different. Who do you believe? Up to a point I think it's what you want to believe!
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
28-07-2020 3:35 PM
28-07-2020 4:14 PM
There is no way of knowing with a degree of certainty how many people actually died in China due to the virus because the "official" figures don't really withstand scrutiny.
If the Chinese "official" figures are correct, why were so many portable incinerators moved it to Chinese cities and why were thousand and thousands of funeral urns delivered to funeral parlours in the first few months of the pandemic?
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
28-07-2020 6:04 PM
One thing that bothers me is the way that deaths are reported in the UK. Anyone who has Covid 19 in their body at the time of death is reported as having died of Corvid 19. So, someone who had Coronavirus, but was coping with it and could get better, but then has a heart attack and dies, would be counted as a Corvid death. I truly believe that the actual number of deaths in the UK is thousands less than officially claimed. Now why would they do that? Also...it seems that the govenment, or whoever is pulling the strings, doesn't want things to go back to how they were before.They keep telling us that things will be done differently. So many systems are supposedly going to change, it's almost like a reset button is being pushed.
28-07-2020 6:46 PM
I agree ! a bit like saying the peasants are having too much freedom and say in things now so we the elite need to do something too take more of the power back into our control.
28-07-2020 7:08 PM
I have been a member of Population Matters for quite some time. This Earth is vastly overpopulated. When news of the impending Pandemic first broke, I said to my husband..' Watch and wait...the old and the sick will be polished off...it won't be affecting young people'. So it is.
28-07-2020 7:23 PM
28-07-2020 10:04 PM
😀😀No Suzie! I have found it very strange that the virus doesn't affect children or young adults. ..unless they have underlying health conditions. I'm not an expert on infectious diseases, but surely most plagues and pandemics are not particular about the ages of the people that die from them. It seems that this virus is designed to see off vulnerable and unproductive sections of the population. If you wanted to reduce the Earth's population, you couldn't have designed a better way of doing it.
28-07-2020 10:43 PM
That's not so. Very young people have died from it. The youngest were babies.
However, it's right to say that some people will have been "listed" of dying from the virus when really, although they had the virus, it was another thing (like a heart attack) that actually saw them off.
As to side effects from any vaccine. It'll be like many medications. Many people will be absolutely fine and others will suffer side effects. If you had a look at the "possible" side effects listed with some medications, you'd never take them. You get a leaflet with medications and the possible side effects are listed and some give numbers affected out of 100, 1,000, 10,000 and out of 100,000.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
28-07-2020 11:56 PM