Those that KNOW, not just THINK they know !!

[evoman3957]

Received this message from my Son this morning, I post it for you all to read & spread the word.

Having worked in the NHS as a junior doctor for over 5 months now, I can vouch that this article presents an accurate picture of my experiences as a junior doctor.

Please read the article, send it on, share it, comment, and join the fight for YOUR health service.

Thank you

https://www.bma.org.uk/news-views-analysis/work/2016/february/the-nhs-not-fit-to-fly?utm_source=The+...

[jd.linklater]

It would serve Jeremy Hunt well to spend a night shift or two in that hospital. Perhaps he would then have some understanding of what life is like on the front line of patient care, but I doubt it would bother him. He comes across as nothing more than a numbers man.

[joe_bloggs*]

Jeremy Hunt 'personally vetoed deal that would have ended junior doctors strike'

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/jeremy-hunt-vetoed-deal-to-e...

People voted tory, thinking that the inevitable cuts to public services will affect other people, not them or anybody they know,

But the cuts are affecting them.even camerons mother signed a petition against cuts to essential local services!

[0125arwen]

People voted tory because labour caused the debt.

[joe_bloggs*]

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@0125arwen wrote:

People voted tory because labour caused the debt.

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You forgot the world banking crisis,i read somewhere that Gordon Brown caused that as well

[0125arwen]

Did i forget, or is it because the debt was already accumulated by then?

[joe_bloggs*]

So very true,we're all much better off now under that nice mr cameron 

[0125arwen]

I didn't say that either.

It's a big enough pot for all of them to use.

[soppysofty]

If you can afford to pay around £250.00 per month you can go private using an 'insurance scheme' (BUPA, AXA HealthCare, etc.)

If you cannot then you have the option of the NHS which is free at the point of need.

Free at the point of need but we all pay for it through our taxes and NI contributions.

Would you be prepared to spend an extra £15.00 per week from your wages if it went direct to the NHS and was ring-fenced?

That is the real difference between the money the NHS has and what it really needs to run properly.

It is time, in my opinion, that all the unnecessary 'administrators' where weeded out of the NHS and we went back to the days of 'Matron'.

Also, wouldn't it be nice if those who block up A & E through excessive drinking had to pay for thier treatment?

It is calculated that the 'drinkers' cost A & E around £50 000.00 per week!  That is per hospital!

When you think that an ambulance costs around £250.00 each time it is used and it costs around £125.00 to triage a patient you can see how the costs soon add up.

A charge of £450.00 for each 'drunk' using A & E would sober alot of people up very quickly and would go some way to recover the unneccesary costs and burden to the NHS.

What do you all think?

[evoman3957]

Yes, the case of some wrecking things for everybody else; is there in many walks of life and the NHS is no exception..........perhaps those that abuse many things in life, should start to do the paying.

Incidentally, if the Party line that you are all getting ( through the media.....via. the government ) about this latest strike by junior Doctors; is that they want to get paid for Saturday working, but Hunt says that is incorporated in the pay rise they would get. The truth is, that the BMA say they would take a drop in the pay rise, to fund paying overtime payments for working on a Saturday.  The reason they say that, is because THEY know; that Hunts pay rise amounts to compensating them ONLY for a flat 8 hour day, at basic pay, on a Saturday...........whereas Hunt knows full well ( as the BMA do ) that in reality, Doctors will work a minimum of 10 or 12 hours on a Saturday and often up to 14 hours.  Jeremy Hunt knows FULL WELL that the pay rise he's offered them, would never compensate them for working those kind of hours and therefore he knows it can't be self funded, through reducing the pay rise, because the rise was insufficient to cover it.........and it would expose that fact.

[******lynda******]

Maybe the people have to take some responsibility, too. What cost this to the NHS, and this is only one dept? In only one hospital earlier this month. Imagine that multiplied through the country.

if it's ' ' 'free' it's worth what they paid for it. ?..nothing. Bring in fines for these people. Make people pay for every missed medical appointment if they don't give notice.

Sorry cant post the actual pic on this machine.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj556/lynda_murray1/image_zpsmu18mveb.jpeg

[evoman3957]

Well, if in years to come we're living in a third world country; with an NHS in tatters and people dying left, right and center, mark this day well............February 11 2016..........as the day it all began.

[artful_dodgings]

Jeremy Hunt comes across to me as a rather sly and shifty character. From Culture Secretary to Secretary of State for Health overnight, his experience in his present position must be invaluable.

[upthecreekyetagain]

I just don't understand the mindset of an employer, (in this case the government), that can't attract enough suitably qualified employees, (junior doctors), deciding to impose a contract on its existing employees against their wishes.

Total madness!

[evoman3957]

Well all I know, is that if any employer in the private sector tried to do that, or did it, ( changing an employees contract against their wishes ).......they'd be taken to an industrial relations tribunal for constructive dismissal and the employees would win. There's a big downside though in abusing ones position of being a law maker, there's no law against simply packing the job in; or going to work in another country ( to give others more deserving the benefit of ones abilities )............we're all going to be finding that out soon enough.  Not those who will have caused the problem though, they'll have private healthcare for themselves and their families. What we have lost sight of, through years of being treated like "Fools", is that mistakes can be rectified; we don't have to put up with something we didn't want or ask for...........what we created, we can also destroy.

[Anonymous]

I'm in hospital as I'm posting this. Been here for 10 days. By now I could write a book of all the horrors happening here. It's too much for everyone involved. Overworked doctors and nurses, patients really not getting the care they need. I can't wait to get home, so I can get out of this madhouse before a rebellion breaks out. Everyone is at each others throat here, I'm not exaggerating. 

I'm in the Manchester Royal infirmary.

[joe_bloggs*]

Doctors, eh? You can’t find anyone more selfish in society

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/doctors-eh-you-can-t-find-anyone-more-selfish-in-society-a686788...

"One Conservative adviser explained in The Times that the “moderate” doctors must “defeat the militants” in this issue. It’s easy to see what he means: for too long the doctors have gone along with the extremist minority 98 per cent who oppose the plans, rather than the 2 per cent who represent the moderate centre ground.

This is how the militants of the British Medical Association get their way, the anarchist Marxists. It’s just strike, strike, strike with them: they had one 40 years ago; and now, before the dust has even settled, they’re having another"

for too long now we’ve rewarded the selfish in society, such as those people who train to be doctors, whose only thought is to flaunt their wealth having made no contribution apart from the odd operation.

It’s time, at last, to offer overdue assistance to the unsung heroes of professions such as investment banking, who toil away with barely a thought for themselves – even on a Saturday – and have never once asked for a penny more"

[sandpiper222]

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@joe_bloggs* wrote:

Doctors, eh? You can’t find anyone more selfish in society

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/doctors-eh-you-can-t-find-anyone-more-selfish-in-society-a686788...

"One Conservative adviser explained in The Times that the “moderate” doctors must “defeat the militants” in this issue. It’s easy to see what he means: for too long the doctors have gone along with the extremist minority 98 per cent who oppose the plans, rather than the 2 per cent who represent the moderate centre ground.

This is how the militants of the British Medical Association get their way, the anarchist Marxists. It’s just strike, strike, strike with them: they had one 40 years ago; and now, before the dust has even settled, they’re having another"

for too long now we’ve rewarded the selfish in society, such as those people who train to be doctors, whose only thought is to flaunt their wealth having made no contribution apart from the odd operation.

It’s time, at last, to offer overdue assistance to the unsung heroes of professions such as investment banking, who toil away with barely a thought for themselves – even on a Saturday – and have never once asked for a penny more"

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Mark steel wrote that article- just slightly left of Gengis kahn.

Ill comment on the doctors strike if i get time or feel worth commenting on, but hate them or hate them banking and investment bankers probably pays for most of the NHS.

Of course they are not looking forward to their £38k  + a year pension. everyone has a tough time at the start of their careers, are they the only ones who have to work hard.?

[evoman3957]

Kinda depends how screwed up your priorities are, I suppose, one could save / make you money.........the other could save / make your life.........Would you rather be not particularly well off but alive..........or stinking rich and dead.

[joe_bloggs*]

Consider a vote of No Confidence in Jeremy Hunt, Health Secretary

Mr Hunt recently gave totally inappropriate advice to Google conditions before seeking medical opinion. He referred to Paramedics as Ambulance Drivers and has caused the first Doctors strike in years of the NHS. Mr Hunt is destroying all staff morale in the NHS & will cause recruitment issues.

Sign this petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/121152

260,466 signatures last time i looked