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cee-dee · ‎26-09-2012

OK, so "They" say "everything" began with the Big Bang.

Fair enough, it was quite something and happened faster than the blink of an eye?

"They" also say nothing can travel faster than light?

If that's so, how can "They" view light which "began" shortly after the Big Bang?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19728375

We are "here", they're viewing light from a heck of a long way away, such light will have taken billions of years to get here even at approximately 186,000 miles per second.

So how did we get out "here", so far from that light when it was Starlight so long ago?

OK, were we able to get to the source of that light in an instant, we'd find it was probably no longer there but we are billions of miles from where that light was so how come the matter from which our Solar System was formed got sooooo far away from the Stars they're no "seeing"?

It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

Anonymous · ‎04-11-2012

hi #119, there is a theory called the multiverse.

treefrog6352 · ‎04-11-2012

There is Dark Matter and there is Light Matter, the two cancel each other out, therefore the Mass of the universe is exactly what it was at the Big Bang ....zero.

Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

valerienesbitt777 · ‎04-11-2012

Hey!

This topic is all very interesting and to be honest I think humans will still be discussing it in millions of years to come. It's nature to speculate and one day we will hopefully have answers. But for now I'll leave you with this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X41bA4l-h0w

Anonymous · ‎05-11-2012

hi tree frog, i think you were looking for matter and anti-matter, they will cancell each other out. within this universe we are classed as right handed matter (with anti-matter being classed left handed or mirror imaged) there was not enough anti-matter in the creation of the big bang to cancell out right handed matter, if there was we would not be here now.

not-another-one · ‎05-11-2012

I wasn't referring to the muliverse (parallel universe) theory just the simpler idea that out there somewhere there could have been another Big Bang with another universe maybe even hundreds/thousands.

not-another-one · ‎05-11-2012

The dark matter theory is a bit of a cobble up used to explain why there isn't enough 'normal' matter in the universe (about 25% of what is needed) to explain how the universe behaves. Dark matter (invisible matter) helps fill this gap but we have no proof beyond the basic theory that is even exists.

Anonymous · ‎06-11-2012

hi 124, that is exactly what the multiverse theory is about, parallel or multi universes.

Anonymous · ‎06-11-2012

hi 125, we have no proof i agree, but something is holding the galaxies together. a long time ago the search for Pluto was termed the search for planet X, but was changed to Pluto when the minor planet was found. i dare say when absolute proof of this dark matter is found they will give it a more acceptable name, maybe after the person who dicovers it.

cee-dee · ‎08-11-2012

Do the galaxies need anything to "hold them together"?

Gravity plays a big part in "keeping things more or less in place"?

Meanwhile, current research is suggesting that 95% of all Stars that there will ever be have already been born.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-11/07/star-production-down-97-percent

It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

Anonymous · ‎08-11-2012

hi CD, i should have said holds the universe together. as yet scientists and astronomers are undecided with regards to just how much "matter" is within the universe. its like goldilocks, to little and the universe will expand to infinity and die, to much and the expansion will stop and then reverse (a belife some religions do hold) and the just enough for the steady state, where stars are born and die for ever. this dark matter holds the key for weather or not clause 1,2,or 3 holds out.

watching a Brian Cox programme the other day, he said that gravity is the weakest force within this universe. its force can be easily broken as to that compared to atomic binding.

cee-dee · ‎25-11-2012

As I walk the dog at night, I look up at the myriad of Stars and in the Winter, I particularly look towards Orion and think of the beliefs the ancient Egyptians had about that constellation. "Below", I see Sirius twinkling and "changing colour".

I then get to wondering, probably as many who look to the Stars have done, just how big is the Universe?

If we accept that the Universe we know "began" with a bang, that event happened "somewhere" which must surely be "the centre of the Universe"?

If you "accept" that scenario, I wonder just where are we in relationship to either "the centre" or the furthest "edge"?????

Which "direction" should we look to even look towards the "centre"?

Forgetting the "centre" and looking back to Orion, during the Winter, it's interesting to see how our view of it "changes" as our perspective is changed by our orbit around the Sun.

Fascinating. Well, it would be if I could see the Stars and it wasn't for the fog tonight. 😞

It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

upthecreekyetagain · ‎26-11-2012

Have a read of this

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

Deno thread on FHG

bankhaunter · ‎26-11-2012

I do have the feeling that creationists can have little understanding of just how big the Universe is.

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cee-dee · ‎26-11-2012

Yes, interesting, I've seen similar before.

However, "they" never explain or theorise how such a thing could happen.

Glibly trotting out that there was nothing there, no space, no time, no nothing just doesn't wash.

There had to be something there (or somewhere) otherwise there would have been nothing to cause a Big Bang.

It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

leoleoleo123 · ‎26-11-2012

My brain hurts..........

upthecreekyetagain · ‎26-11-2012

Why did there have to be something there before the big bang ?:|

If the sum of everything in the universe, energy matter, anti-matter, time, gravity and all the various particles adds up to zero then there was no need for anything to have been there nor for anything to have caused the big bang - it just happenned.

Deno thread on FHG