Sir Jimmy Saville

[thecollectorssurplus]

No thread about this on here, so I thought I'd start one. 

My starter for ten is this: Okay, I'm not saying anybody is making anything up, but why did all these people wait till he was dead before accusing him of all this stuff? And quite frankly, now he's dead, what can come from it other than tarnishing a reputation that was spotless and upsetting his grieving family even further. Seems basically wrong to me. Why does someone always have to bring down our heroes and role models? They should have done what they're doing now ten years ago or not at all if you ask me.

Nick

[pillarboxred]

instead he went to his death a happy man

Mitzi, I agree with the rest of your post but am curious about how you know this strange intelligence.

[ilove2patch]

I used the expression 'dirty old man' as it was the one Frederick had used in his post that I was replying to.

[pillarboxred]

Rereading my post, I see it might give the impression that I am of the "blame the victim" school. Not so; I simply think that his image as a young man must have somehow influenced how he was judged, or indulged. 

[renomarvinm]

I believe this sad tragedy needs to be aired to give some small bit of justice, closure, and above all, pschological relief, to the victims. 

Right now the BBC is under scrutiny, and perhaps its fate hangs in the balance.  But I believe it will come out of this a better organization, and remain a great one!  Like Reuters, it is one of the world's great media institutiions.  Even now it is literally a thousand times better than the pre-digested garbage we get on American tv!!!

[lhasa.two]

I'll second that reno, about the garbage I mean! B-):^O

[renomarvinm]

Hello mrs*slocombes*pussie!!!

No problem!  I agree with you fully!  American television is a great howling wasteland, filled with the mindless voices of the demented, disenchanted, disfunctional, and the truly damned, all to the sound of a million canned laugh tracks, political advertisements, and 100 advertisements per hour, of course..

I don't watch it.

[electric*mayhem*band]

That's the most concise and accurate description of American television I've ever heard - and from an American. *I think*

Oh joy of joys. :^O

[renomarvinm]

Hello electric*mayhem*band!!!  Hello, and thank you!  Your post has truly brightened my day!  Yes, I am an American, and I love my country, but I do not love its television.  I watch yours, when I can find it, with a kind of lust and passion, or is it passion and/or lust - I can never quite figure out which.  My favorite show is Vicar of Dibbly - I've laughed, cried, and done both at the same time.  And Alice!!  Oh, what a wonderful actress, to play such a part!  They're all great.

But please forgive me for going afield here.  The thread subject is Jimmy Saville, and I seem to have wondered off subject a bit.  The point I was making was that the BBC will survive all of this.  We had Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite - you have the BBC.  Perhaps there is hope for all of us!   These threads are always interesting!!  Best wishes,  Bob, here in raining Oregon!!!

[upthecreekyetagain]

Gary Glitter has been arrested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

[vicdoria]

Gary Glitter has been arrested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

Hmmmmm.  It seems like they may have caught the leader of the gang.

[al**bear]

Freddy Starr has been speaking to his lawyers

[al**bear]

Former pop star Gary Glitter has been released on bail after he was questioned on suspicion of sexual offences.

[pillarboxred]

Former pop star Gary Glitter has been released on bail after he was questioned on suspicion of sexual offences.

I thought he was in prison. Is he out on parole? Looking at a postcard site tonight I learned that Egon Schiele got into trouble for similar things. He was an artistic giant, a game changer. This is an awful problem for society to deal with.

[al**bear]

Justice ?

A 19yo football Fan in full employment, who had never been in trouble in his life , was sentenced to 3 months in jail, for singing sectarian songs and acting like an idiot at a football game.

A 46yo Inverness man was sentenced to 200 hours of community service and was placed on the sex offenders’ register after being found with over 1400 images of child porn.

Same court, same Sheriff, same week

[bankhaunter]

Apparently rumours were sufficient to ensure Jimmy Savile was banned from any involvement with Children In Need.

Sir Roger said: "We all recognised he is a creepy sort of character.

"And when I was with Children in Need we took the decision that we didn't want him near the charity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9640407/Creepy-Jimmy-Savile-was-banned-from-Children-in-Need.html

[mitzigirl_123]

Mitzi, I agree with the rest of your post but am curious about how you know this strange intelligence.

Hi pillarboxred:

There is no intelligent insight on my part just an assumption looking at the time and effort he went to planning his funeral with all the regalia to go with it signifying that he knew he was a celebrity, a respected charity worker and wanted his epitaph to reflect this. 

On the other hand he may have gone to his death racked with guilt, aware of his past actions and felt ashamed and remorseful of his behaviour either way, and again this is an assumption on my part, I bet his last thoughts were about himself and not about his victims - even one victim is far too many.

[bankhaunter]

This by his PA. of 32 years and his own admission of acting as judge, jury and executioner in the past, would seem to indicate regret was not an emotion he was likely to have felt.

She revealed he was totally without emotion, did not care if he hurt others and loved wielding power.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/my-32-years-with-jimmy-savile-disgraced-1383145

[man-of-sussex]

Pillerboxred - 'I thought he was in prison. Is he out on parole?' - 

Glitter was sentenced to four months in the UK in 1999 for possession of child porn and sentenced to 3 years in Vietnam in 2005.

[treefrog6352]

The BBC could end up paying £15, 000,000... this is your money that you pay for to watch TV.

All British Companies have to have public liability insurance, this is to protect the company from claims made against it, the BBC will not have to pay out any of Our TV licence fee money.

[cee-dee]

PBR & Mitzi.

His "Epitaph" was "It was good while it lasted".

You could say that what he meant was "I got away with it all".