He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

        

He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42.All of us are subject to “the law of the Christ.” (Gal. 6:2) That law includes all that Jesus taught. Foremost among Jesus’ teachings is that his followers should display love. (John 13:35; Jas. 2:8) And one of the primary ways we show love for God, for Christ, and for our neighbor is by preaching the good news of the Kingdom. (John 15:10; Acts 1:8) Jesus commanded only a relatively small number of his followers—those to whom he appeared after his resurrection—to preach. (Acts 10:40-42; 1 Cor. 15:6) But all his faithful first-century disciples recognized that the command applied to them, even if they had not personally heard Jesus speak. (Acts 8:4; 1 Pet. 1:8) Likewise today, Jesus has not personally spoken to any of the eight million active Kingdom preachers. But all recognize their obligation to exercise faith in Christ and to express that faith by means of the witnessing work.—Jas. 2:18. w15 3/15 4:14, 15

         

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But Forum,

What about the following then. I'm pretty sure these faiths must have some learned men and women as well. People who will have done their homework, just as the JW say they have. So who decides who is right and who is wrong? You would have to study all their scriptures to make sure you are betting on the right horse so to speak.

 

Buddhism has over 500 million followers

Hinduism has about 1 billion followers world wide

Islam roughly 1.5 billion  followers.

Catholicism around 1.09 billion.

Christianity in general approx 2.4 billion.

Sikhism approx 30 million.

 

Looks like a lot of people are going to get a bad deal if they don't become Jehova witnesses.

 

 

 


Harry,

 

I understand your question, yes I am sure there are plenty of learned med and women.

 

There is a great publication that will help answer your questions concerning all those religions as comparisons to the faith of the JW's (not sure if that is the correct grammar to explain)

It is called "Mankind's search for God" there a many good reviews about this book from many non witnesses. 

 

 

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@cee-dee wrote:

Yet another JW link promoting the JW brainwashing which provides absolutely no evidence only more "belief".

 

It's all absolute garbage with no substance whatsoever. It seems some people just cannot (or want to) grasp  absolute creation formed by physics over the eons leading to (as far as this planet's concerned) evolution.


You are correct CeeDeee, we don't accept evolution as the beginning because we have reasoned on the information recorded about it and compared it to creation and come to the conclusion that evolution cannot be correct.

 

If you do want to look for yourself, to at least find the reasons why we believe it not correct then look for and rad the publication "Life, How did it get here - by Evolution or Creation"  it is a book published by the society yes  but it does give  views of evolution explaining quite simply the evolution theory. 

 

It will answer your questions. Xx

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Re: He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

I (we?) don't want to look at your biased "reasoning" because it's pretty obvious that yet again it's all based on what MAN has said or written without a fact amongst them.

 

Your "conclusion" is wrong as it's pretty obvious evolution has taken place and there's little point in posting a multitude of links proving it as you're obviously not going to read them never mind accept them.

 

Where's these "questions" I'm supposed to have asked?

 

BTW, all these lengthy quotes are pretty tiresome and completely unnecessary.



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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It is interesting to note the kind of people who are targeted by the purveyors of religious control......the preachers if you like.  Nothing against them as people, but they are not exactly the Illuminati of our societies. I guess they are looking for people who have little to live for, possibly unfulfilled people and in Malaysia, India, Brazil, the middle east and many other places; including large sections of our own society.........they've found the perfect hosts.......and given them the only meaning to their existence they've probably ever had, regardless of any validity.

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@cee-dee wrote:

I (we?) don't want to look at your biased "reasoning" because it's pretty obvious that yet again it's all based on what MAN has said or written without a fact amongst them.

 

Your "conclusion" is wrong as it's pretty obvious evolution has taken place and there's little point in posting a multitude of links proving it as you're obviously not going to read them never mind accept them.

 

Where's these "questions" I'm supposed to have asked?

 

BTW, all these lengthy quotes are pretty tiresome and completely unnecessary.


I have studied the evolution theory, I have had to make a reasoned choice between it and creation.  You clearly have not studied creation according to the Bible.

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CeeDee,

 

 

Where did your evolution theory come from?

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Re: He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

If I might be allowed to add my fourpence worth - cee-dee you wrote that if God was an all-powerful being, He would ensure that the human race on this planet saw Him regularly and saw Him write his proposals for a way of life according to Him.  Well yes, exactly!

He sent His Son Jesus Christ who was God in human form so that we might know Him.  Just because that was 2000-odd years ago doesn't make it any less real.  Two of the gospels were written by His disciples who were with Him all the time for the three years of His ministry.  Apparently Matthew as a tax collector could have used a form of shorthand in his work so it's perfectly reasonable to presume that he kept a record of Jesus' life and teachings and wrote it all down at a later date.

 

I'm not a JW so there are differences in FD's and my beliefs but I couldn't keep quiet any longer!

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marshallhouse

 

Can I butt in, and add my sixpence worth !

 

No less than 3 Roman historians make reference to the existence of Christ (not in a very good light ofcourse, being Romans) but that's good enough for me ! As far as I'm concerned, he existed !

 

As for the rest, it's what each individual believes, something to be respected obviously, but I stress the word belief as opposed to proof, of which there is none !

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Re: He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

You're on very thin ground relying on ancient writings. They've all been written and re-written so many times and adapted to suit in the later versions which survive up to now, adapted so much that they're completely unreliable.

 

You just won't have it that what was supposed to have happened, been said and what was written later is not a fact. Believe what you want to believe but the truth of the matter is beyond plain belief.

 

You say he sent his son? Why didn't he come himself? Why wasn't he here putting his foot down and sorting out all those wicked acts supposedly carried out in his name? Why isn't he here putting a stop to all the wicked acts currently being perpetrated in the World? Why isn't he putting an end to the pain and suffering in the World? You can just forget that "Ours is not to reason why" excuse too.

 

Jesus was the son of god? Now, Jesus said he was so that makes it a fact? If a Man today suddenly proclaims himself to be a son of god, would you accept it? Would you follow his teachings? Why not? For all you know he may be, he may not but how will you know? Ohhhh, you "just know".....??

 

Now Jesus was saying that things in his part of the World were "not right" and was saying that things should be different saying that people should be "living" according to what he said saying that it was the word of god. The way of life there was Jewish, much of what he said was picked and chosen from that way of life with his input, much in the same way as what Jesus said has been picked and chosen over two millennia with later input.

 

Sooooo, believe what you want to believe but trying to continually foist what you believe upon everyone else isn't "right".

 

 



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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Re: He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

With respect, cee-dee, I didn't intend to enter into any arguments, I just wanted to answer your question, and I don't think my one message out of 170-odd is continually foisting my beliefs on anyone.  I'm also wondering why the beliefs of countless millions of people all over the world for the last two thousand years, some of whom today are suffering horrendously for those beliefs, seem to be less relevant than the non-beliefs of other people who seem to have free rein to say as much as they like.  Nuff said, I'll leave you all to it. xx

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Sorry, that's out of 150!
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Re: He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness.—Acts 10:42

The beliefs of millions of people doesn't mean they're right. If simple belief was a proven fact, what about the beliefs of many more millions or even the millions that think all "beliefs" are rubbish?

 

Some of those "believers" have carried out really wicked things for little reason other than to attempt to control others with fear. Of course, those burned at the stake for "heresy" deserved it didn't they? Others who either opposed or questioned the imposition of rigid "beliefs" suffered terribly.

 

Like I asked, if your believers are suffering like many before them, why hasn't your god intervened to help them? Seems a bit cruel to let them suffer?



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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If we're getting stuck in to beliefs, are those correct who believe the Earth is flat?

 

What about those who believe the Earth was created as-is, that is, as it stands now?

 

They believe everything on Earth has always been so, the continents are not moving, the mountains have not been risen by such movement and all the rocks were created with all the layers and fossils. The fossilised dinosaur bones were created in the rock and the dinosaurs never lived. The Earth never was almost completely covered by ice and the Mammoths found in the ice today were all created like that?

 

Are all those things fact or fantasy? Which "belief" is correct? Was the Earth created as-is or has it really evolved?

 

 



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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I seem to remember a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses being given the Michael Behe argument of irreducible complexity to use against evolution.

 

Unfortunately they were armed with a damp squib as he had been thoroughly embarrassed as a witness in the Dover v Kitzmiller case.

 

 

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Behe's arguments have been shot down in flames endless times. Intelligent Design is based on false assumptions and faulty reasoning so it always fails the test of scientific methodology. Just because an organism or mechanism is unbelievably complex doesn't mean it must have had a designer. Complex organisms don't appear fully formed overnight,  evolution has been going on for billions of years.

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Forum,

The book is a Watch Tower publication............................

 

I'm afraid that none of us are free of unconscious bias, also known as implicit bias, which is a positive or negative mental attitude towards a person, thing, or group that a person holds at an subconscious level.

 

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FD...you are so wrong to say that I do not respect other religions. I am not offended by your saying so, as I don't think you mean it in an offensive way. I do respect most religions, including yours, as most religions bring some sort of comfort to their followers. I have spent most of my life having a profound interest in the different religions. And it never ceases to amaze me how there are elements in most religions which are alike. Most religions hold just the one God to be praised and followed, probably the same one God, but each and every religion manages to find some pedantic piece of alleged 'truth' to argue about and set themselves apart from the others. And this is the cause of most of the strife in the world. If only all people who believed in and followed that one God got together , wouldn't that be a magnificent force for good? After spending almost sixty years looking for a religion, I am now a committed Atheist, and very happy to be so. The only religion that ever attracted me was the B'hai faith. But that was before I finally concluded that God does not exist. I have in the past invited JW's into my home, out of interest, and read the Watchtower. So I don't think it would be fair to say that I pay lip service.

Incidentally...would you take time out to read a very good book? It's called 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins. I very much doubt it.

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Another good read is 'God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything' by Christopher Hitchens.

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Forum,

The book is a Watch Tower publication............................

 

I'm afraid that none of us are free of unconscious bias, also known as implicit bias, which is a positive or negative mental attitude towards a person, thing, or group that a person holds at an subconscious level.

 


Harry, I can quite easily accept that we none of us are perfect and have many traits to contend with and fight against the apostle Paul had to remit that, and recorded that about himself in the books he penned.xx

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@astrologica wrote:

FD...you are so wrong to say that I do not respect other religions. I am not offended by your saying so, as I don't think you mean it in an offensive way. I do respect most religions, including yours, as most religions bring some sort of comfort to their followers. I have spent most of my life having a profound interest in the different religions. And it never ceases to amaze me how there are elements in most religions which are alike. Most religions hold just the one God to be praised and followed, probably the same one God, but each and every religion manages to find some pedantic piece of alleged 'truth' to argue about and set themselves apart from the others. And this is the cause of most of the strife in the world. If only all people who believed in and followed that one God got together , wouldn't that be a magnificent force for good? After spending almost sixty years looking for a religion, I am now a committed Atheist, and very happy to be so. The only religion that ever attracted me was the B'hai faith. But that was before I finally concluded that God does not exist. I have in the past invited JW's into my home, out of interest, and read the Watchtower. So I don't think it would be fair to say that I pay lip service.

Incidentally...would you take time out to read a very good book? It's called 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins. I very much doubt it.


Thank you for that astro, and if I can find that book I will try and give it a read. Xxx

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