Ebola crisis: why is there bush meat in the UK?

 

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The Ebola virus was probably spread by illegal bush meat - and there's plenty being smuggled into UK. 

 

It may also be spread by our government not taking immediate action it seems.  And how deadly is it not to do so? 

 

 

Warning,  it's best not tot look at my attachment if you are squeamish?  That's why I have not put up the picture directly. But I think it may be important for at least some to see.

 

 

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I think some people are unneccasarily concerned about Ebola and foodstuff,The World Health Organization says in their fact sheet:

Ebola is a disease caused by a very, very tiny organism that is carried by dead and living animals. The disease is spread with direct contact of the body fluids of a very sick person, such as saliva, vomit, diarrhoea, sweat, **bleep** and blood. The quickest way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with a sick person who has Ebola or the body of a person who has died of Ebola.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/EbolaLeafletEnglish.pdf




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The quickest way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with a sick person who has Ebola or the body of a person who has died of Ebola.

 

From what I understand, one of the reasons it's spreading so fast over there is because it's common practice for family members and loved ones to prepare the deceased for burial. So they're coming in direct contact with the disease and are catching it themselves. I'm sure that wouldn't be the case in your Country or mine, however it's still a pretty disconcerting situation and really kind of frightening. In the U.S., they just allowed two missionaries who were helping over there and contacted the virus back in to the Sates for treatment. The first cases of Ebola ever in the U.S. Should we have allowed them back in?  I'm torn on that.



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It wouldn't have to be every flight only those that were coming from the areas where the bush meat comes from.

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@pollysd wrote:

The quickest way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with a sick person who has Ebola or the body of a person who has died of Ebola.

 

From what I understand, one of the reasons it's spreading so fast over there is because it's common practice for family members and loved ones to prepare the deceased for burial. So they're coming in direct contact with the disease and are catching it themselves. I'm sure that wouldn't be the case in your Country or mine, however it's still a pretty disconcerting situation and really kind of frightening. In the U.S., they just allowed two missionaries who were helping over there and contacted the virus back in to the Sates for treatment. The first cases of Ebola ever in the U.S. Should we have allowed them back in?  I'm torn on that.


I think so.  They know they have the disease, they have been brought in separately (I think the woman has not yet arrived in the States?) under intense containment and will be in isolation in hospital.   More worrying perhaps will be the casual traveller who may have caught it and will arrive home feeling OK at first.  I gather that the symptoms when it becomes contagious may take 3 weeks to develop.

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  More worrying perhaps will be the casual traveller who may have caught it and will arrive home feeling OK at first. 

 

Yes, I think you're probably right. The CDC, center for disease control, says we have nothing to worry about here. That if somehow we had an outbreak they have the resources to contain it by tracking down all the people the infected person had come in contact with and making sure it doesn't spread. I don't know how much faith I have in that.....I'm just hoping it's a statement they'll never have to back up.



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@suzieseaside wrote:

@rose2008-2008 wrote:

Yes and then they say airport security has been tightened ,tell you what you can have in your hand luggage and what can and cant go in the hold????. AND THEN??. Another bomb explodes!!. talk about put your safety in peoples hands.

 

And all thes E.Bola doctors,nurses and helpers from our country,their obviously coming back here,,, what with. E.BOLA THATS WHAT POSSIBLY!!Woman Surprised


Another bomb explodes?  How many passenger planes have exploded due to bombs, since Lockerbie? 

Not many.  There have been more plots that failed (e.g. the shoe bomber) than those that succeeded.  Who knows how many more there might have been from liquid explosives if people were allowed to carry liquids in hand luggage.

 

P.S.  it's the Ebola virus, not E.Bola

 


Does it really matter?????. E.BOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.  THEIR NOT STRINGENT ENOUGH AT AIRPORTS WHEN THINGS CONCERN OUR SAFETY!!.

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You don't have to shout.

If you want to call it by the wrong name, R.Ose, it's up to you.  Smiley Very Happy

Just pointing it out. Some people might think you mean E.coli - that'll make you poorly at both ends, but fortuntely not usually deadly.

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You are of course referring to people that are genuine & who are helping with the sick, what about those who are in contact & exporting this illegal meat at both ends, they are hardly likely to want to come forward & name all their contacts until it's too late?
Not enough is known about this virus , can it mutate like others & adapt itself, viruses are very clever & can & will adapt to spread, but this is all speculation & scaremongering at the moment but without a doubt something must be sorted!




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With Ebola Viruses,, E. Coli things all these names they give them,, the point is i suppose one day there is going to be one of them in our midst and it will be too late. Too much speculating and not enough doing when its first starting to spread. It would be a terrible thing. i for one would not want to get anything like that,,it would be pretty hopeless then!.Woman Sad

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@suzieseaside wrote:

You don't have to shout.

If you want to call it by the wrong name, R.Ose, it's up to you.  Smiley Very Happy

Just pointing it out. Some people might think you mean E.coli - that'll make you poorly at both ends, but fortuntely not usually deadly.


Forgive me but I just spotted this...heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh... absolutely priceless. We wouldn't want Rose poorly at both ends.

 

And  'You don't have to shout Rose' she said .... heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh........heh.  

 

I would have got my tea and biscuits had I spotted it at the time. But alas I would have been disappointed  It was dealt with so sweetly .....damn it.

 

Still thank you girls that's the best laugh I have had for sometime.  

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Talking about dodgy meat I see the government report into the hohas been shelved until at least the autum.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/15/official-report-horsemeat-scandal-delayed-new-food-sa...
The report's findings are likely to embarrass ministers. The Guardian understands they are similar to conclusions in the interim report submitted last year highlighting the impact of deep spending cuts on frontline enforcement and inspection in the food industry. It said confusion reigned when the horsemeat scandal broke because the coalition had stripped the FSA of overall responsibility for the integrity of food."

Who would have thought it,deep spending cuts on frontline services causing problems?






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Man SurprisedWoman Surprised

 

Yes, they say the truth would frighten us.  And they dare block it.

 

It might have frightened us at the time of the mad cow disease had we known they were feeding cows with cow BRAINS.

 

Who was looking and thinking then?  It certainly frightens us when criminal gangs from parts of Eastern Europe come here to sheep rustling...which has surged in recent times. I wonder why? (not). Can you imagine the brutality of those rustlers? And how they might just slaughter them in some old shed...or at the spot where they nicked them...imagine how savage that must be? They cleared a whole field of sheep from one farm. And they quite like our swans...in a POT. Been hearing about it a lot.

 

Yes, and the dirty poultry story. The horse meat story. The foot and mouth disease story. Suggests someone wasn't looking hard enough.  (as ever after the horse has bolted). And after the cost of billions of pounds...and dreadful suffering to so many animals and humans.

 

The truth is you can only really trust your self by slaughtering the animal your self. We wont be doing that because we are vegetarian's...and refuse to eat anything that once had a face on it.

 

Isn't it food genetic engineering that may be the answer to so much animal abuse?

 

 

 

 

 

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@merehazle wrote:

@suzieseaside wrote:

You don't have to shout.

If you want to call it by the wrong name, R.Ose, it's up to you.  Smiley Very Happy

Just pointing it out. Some people might think you mean E.coli - that'll make you poorly at both ends, but fortuntely not usually deadly.


Forgive me but I just spotted this...heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh... absolutely priceless. We wouldn't want Rose poorly at both ends.

 

And  'You don't have to shout Rose' she said .... heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh........heh.  

 

I would have got my tea and biscuits had I spotted it at the time. But alas I would have been disappointed  It was dealt with so sweetly .....damn it.

 

Still thank you girls that's the best laugh I have had for sometime.  


Some people only have time to sit down all day with Tea and Biscuits?,,,tut tut tut,, nothing better to do. Proves a point really.Woman Very Happy

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Ebola is caused by a virus that is passed from animals to man - not a disease that has been caused by man's actions.

 

HIV was originally a chimpanzee hosted virus.

 

Action is not needed in this country to halt Ebola in its tracks but in those countries where the major hosts live.  If in 1959 the initial HIV outbreaks in the Belgian Congo had been recognised and international action been taken locally to prevent its spread then it is likely any epidemic would have been nipped in the bud.

 

In order to stop the spread of diseases such as Ebola, then early detection is vital which means there has to be local clinics available to the at-risk population where outbreaks can be recognised early.  This requires money that those countries often don't have to spend on public health and until they do international aid is vital to help in this.  Calls for such aid to be stopped can be very short-sighted and costly in the long run.

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Thank You Moderator,,,very much obliged for your help.Woman Happy

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 UN envoy is claiming that airline boycotts of countries where there have been Ebola breakouts are making fighting the disease, "a whole lot harder". 

 

In the meantime there are some incredibly brave medics treating those infected, both local and international volunteers - 240 of those medics have already contracted the disease and 120 have died.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/world/africa/with-aid-doctors-gone-ebola-fight-grows-harder.html?_...

 

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0825/639165-japan-ready-to-offer-trial-ebola-drug/

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