26-09-2013 6:08 PM
Can't disagree meself, if they want to live cheaply, not to put the money back in blightly then fair enough
27-09-2013 5:44 PM
And so it should be, but it will probably cost more than the government will save.
27-09-2013 9:07 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it the case that for pensioners who moved abroad to countries who do not have an agreement with the UK, their pension is fixed at the rate it was when they retired and isn't changing that what it's all about.
27-09-2013 9:28 PM
In Europe, the pension should still go up a little each year. It is fixed in countries like Australia and the USA.
People from the UK are far worse off than their French neighbours, as the French pensions are WAY higher than UK pensions.
27-09-2013 10:06 PM
@jesse--j wrote:In Europe, the pension should still go up a little each year. It is fixed in countries like Australia and the USA.
People from the UK are far worse off than their French neighbours, as the French pensions are WAY higher than UK pensions.
Most of the pensions in Europe are far higher than the UK.
It peeves me that I need 30 years NI contributions for a full state pension, having worked all my life I will have paid in for 50 years by the time I retire and there is no additional payment for the extra years.
27-09-2013 11:15 PM
@chips-and-brown-gravy wrote:
@jesse--j wrote:In Europe, the pension should still go up a little each year. It is fixed in countries like Australia and the USA.
People from the UK are far worse off than their French neighbours, as the French pensions are WAY higher than UK pensions.
Most of the pensions in Europe are far higher than the UK.
It peeves me that I need 30 years NI contributions for a full state pension, having worked all my life I will have paid in for 50 years by the time I retire and there is no additional payment for the extra years.
Your NI contributions didn't pay for your pension - that money was long spent before you retired.
27-09-2013 11:30 PM - edited 27-09-2013 11:31 PM
That's beside the point, but your state pension is based on the number of years you have paid NI.
You get less if you don't pay in for 30 years - why shouldn't you get more if you pay in for more than 30 years?
from GOV.UK website.
Your basic State Pension depends on the number of years you’ve paid National Insurance
You need 30 years worth of contributions or credits to get the full basic State Pension. These are your ‘qualifying years’.
If you have fewer than 30 years, your State Pension will be less than £110.15 per week but you might be able to top up by paying voluntary National Insurance contributions.
I haven't retired yet, thanks to the changes in pension age.
27-09-2013 11:55 PM
@chips-and-brown-gravy wrote:That's beside the point, but your state pension is based on the number of years you have paid NI.
You get less if you don't pay in for 30 years - why shouldn't you get more if you pay in for more than 30 years?
from GOV.UK website.
Your basic State Pension depends on the number of years you’ve paid National Insurance
You need 30 years worth of contributions or credits to get the full basic State Pension. These are your ‘qualifying years’.
If you have fewer than 30 years, your State Pension will be less than £110.15 per week but you might be able to top up by paying voluntary National Insurance contributions.
I haven't retired yet, thanks to the changes in pension age.
If payments were the key then those who paid in for 30 years would get more than those who had 50 years of credits and had not paid in a penny.
The NI contributions earn you an entitlement to a basic State Pension - an entitlement that can be removed at any time. Likewise at anytime the benefit, (Basic State Pension), can be increased, decreased or removed entirely by the government in power. The method of earning the entitlement can also be changed at any time - there is no contract guaranteeing what Basic State Pension you or I will receive, it is simply a state benefit that can be altered or removed entirely.
28-09-2013 9:53 AM
Still cant find anything about this thread..must be Spam.
28-09-2013 10:52 AM
Will this do Tommy?:-
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
28-09-2013 11:05 AM
State pension for people living abroad: where your payments will go up and where they will be frozen
By THIS IS MONEY
UPDATED: 13:29 GMT, 7 December 2012
Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-1709959/The-state-pension-British-people-living-...
Thanks Cee Dee.. thats old news in 2012.. We are talking about 2013.. this is a Spam thread
28-09-2013 11:17 AM
You mean here's a
So they'd better get going?
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
28-09-2013 11:25 AM
@cee-dee wrote:You mean here's a
So they'd better get going?
Its a warning to other posters to be careful..