31-03-2025 10:27 PM
31-03-2025 11:04 PM
Very intrigued as to what happened in 2012 more than anything else.
31-03-2025 11:17 PM
'Very intrigued as to what happened in 2012 more than anything else.'
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I wonder if this is when ebay brought out an App, or made the site easier to use on 'phones..?
01-04-2025 5:56 AM
It appears it was a mix of just that as well as an explosion in the take of PayPal
01-04-2025 8:29 AM
Wasn't it in 2013 that ebay introduced FVF on P&P?
Perhaps if we could see the years before 2012 they would all be up around the 2012 level, or at least moving up towards it. Then greed set in and ebay went from growing sales to increase their profits, to growing it's fee revenue regardless of what effect that had on sales.
I wonder when it was that MP arrived? Would it have been in 2019?
I would love to see the figures for ebay.uk if anyone can find them.
01-04-2025 8:53 AM
What are you trying to show?
What you have shown is that revenue increased in 2024, and you have given no figures for 2025, so I don't quite get the point.
01-04-2025 9:13 AM
If you take into account inflation then ebays revenue has gone down.
Amazon murdered ebay when it came along.
01-04-2025 10:22 AM
I think the point is Ebays income has hit a plateau.They dont seem to be attracting large amounts of new buyers or new sellers so they are looking elsewhere to keep the shareholders happy.
Theres nothing better than trying to squeeze more value out of the customers you already have because they are already there,you dont have to go out and find them.
At the end of the day its a calculation between the money they will lose as people leave over BPF and SD and the money they they will gain from the current changes.
Only time will reveal the answer to that ,but I wouldnt be putting money on the income expanding sufficiently.
I think a lot of the problem is Ebay have turned into followers not innovators,most of what they are bringing in has already been done by rival platforms which makes the current policy look a bit like a rather desperate attempt to catch up rather than to concentrate on what makes Ebay different.
01-04-2025 10:37 AM
As reported from eBay's financial report (my bold): "Mobile continues to rewrite the commerce playbook, and we continue to be a mobile commerce and payments leader," Donahoe said. "eBay mobile finished the year with $13 billion in volume - more than double the prior year - and PayPal mobile handled almost $14 billion in payment volume, more than triple the prior year. In 2013, we expect each to exceed $20 billion."
"In 2013, we expect each to exceed $20 billion." - Ooops - what went wrong there (2013 - $8.26) ?
01-04-2025 10:52 AM
Grasping at straws a bit there, are you not?
In the current economic environment, that figure, on its own, is quite acceptable. However, revenue, on its own is not a reliable indicator of success. There are far more factors, which the OP ignores.
01-04-2025 12:11 PM
2013 was the year Cassini was brought in and my sales have dipped year on year ever since
01-04-2025 12:50 PM
I'm still curious about the figures for the 5 years prior to 2012 and any trends they show, sorry but I can't find them.
2013 was when ebay announced FVF on P&P in their Fall (September) Seller Announcements.
What that shows me is that revenue increased in '14 (due to the fee increase?) and continued to grow until '17.
Ebay started the change-over from paypal to Managed Payments in a limited way in the second half of 2018 and rolled it out more widely in '19, completing the transition in '21.
What that shows me is that again revenue took a hit but bounced back, again due to the fee increase? Also in '20 / '21 aided by Covid lockdowns.
Since then we've had a several years of high inflation.
Without knowing the pre-2012 trend and why such a plunge 2013, in IMO it doesn't look too good.
Since 2013 and allowing for inflation (especially in delivery costs), revenue looks to be almost flat-lining. Take out the above increases in fee revenue it might even be in decline and all the apparent growth simply down to inflation?
What I'd expect for 2025 results? Another sharp reduction followed in '26 by a rebound due to increased fee revenue, but little in the way of any real growth in sales.