eBay UK are at a Crossroads

Anyone remember the end scene from that enchanting 2000 film, Castaway ? Chuck is standing at a Crossroads, and the decision he takes will dictate immediate future events. That's exactly where eBay UK is currently. In 5 years time, Business Schools will probably use the eBay Case Study of 2025 Q1 and Q2's far-reaching Board decisions, which ultimately sealed its fate. They'll discuss how either a) in acknowledging errors, bold decisions were taken to reverse an inevitable slide and terminal decline, or b) eBay UK withered away and slowly faded into oblivion.
 
I love eBay. I absolutely do, and I want it to succeed. I handle complaints for a living, and have for many years, for a major FTSE 100 listed company. I probably know more than most the ramifications when 'an expression of dissatisfaction' isn't effectively addressed. At best, the party will vocally air their views internally (See this Board for a plethora of examples where 20+ year long term Sellers are walking away) or externally. (CMA, FCA, Watchdog at the Beeb and MSM) At worst, many (the silent majority in fact with complaints) will quietly and simply take their business, both as Buyer and Seller, elsewhere. At the very worst, they tell others, friends and family...and this for a business is by far the most catastrophic.
 
I take my hat off to Kat and the team in Customer Services. They're doing their best in valiantly fighting fire after fire with buckets of water given to them from the powers up high. And judging by the outcome, those buckets contain kerosene. Far too often the 'benefits' statements justifying Managed Payments, BPF and SD are disingenuous. The reality though is Buyers suffer in paying a premium for something that already existed for most of the last 26 years. Furthermore, Sellers, particularly those who aren't tech savvy, the disabled and those who live rurally or don't drive...are all disadvantaged. 
 
But wait. It's not too late. There was a great quote on the Board about the old adage "if it's not broke, don't fix it." eBay's take recently seems to have been " if it's not broke, we'll fix it until it is broke." I get it - eBay aren't a Charity and want to maximise revenue streams. Nothing wrong with that, but in implementing the changes they have, they've lost the one thing with Buyers and Sellers that you simply can't put a price on...Goodwill.
 
So, if Eve Williams and Co. are listening, here's a few things I think may help, which are raised in the spirit of co-operation and ultimately support for a better eBay in the very near future.
 
1) Communication. Honest, transparent and consistent. Drip feeding and statements which Sellers regard as plainly false, don't help. The '20% cheaper postage' statement is a case in point.
 
2) BPF. Be brave and bin it. Go back instead to the old model of bi-weekly FVF Promotional Weekends. (80%, 70%, £1). Or worst case, instead levy an equivalent 75p + 4% SPF. Saying 'It's Free to Sell" sounds less appetising when complemented by "It's Not Free to Buy". Many Sellers, myself included, are happy to pay Fees. After all, eBay are providing a welcome Win Win Service connecting two parties.
 
3) SD. Retain the Custom Postage manual opt-out and let Sellers continue to decide how they package and Send an item AFTER a Sale, and not BEFORE. Many have their reasons for distrusting SD - whether it be personal circumstances or in my case, a desire to avoid certain carriers. Delivery reliability is paramount as I want my items to arrive intact at the other end. I've been close to tears hearing Positive Feedback and Messages from Buyers of items I've sold. Just one example - The £2 glass figurine replacing the sentimental value one broken in their childhood in the 1960s...finally found and purchased.
 
I absolutely trust Evri to deliver my elderly mum's Pads. There's an analogy there about s**t happens...but I won't go there. From experience though, whether unintentionally or not, they've destroyed parcels before. The one which hurts the most was the rare early 1970s Aviation poster I sold. The iconic beaming Stewardess from a long-defunct Airline that disappeared in the 70s, promoting a long obsolete aircraft type. Those rare collectibles don't come along every day. The Buyer was so excited until I had to impart the bad news. In short, when you choose preferred Couriers, it has real-world consequences. 
 
4) Managed Payments. No issues from me. I suspect those needing quick cash-flow turnaround, especially the pseudo Private Sellers with £200k - £300k in Gold/Collectibles listings stock...oops, I meant to type 'personal possessions', may somewhat disagree.
 

 

So, the ball is in eBay's Court. I sincerely hope you do the one thing people on this Board are desperately crying out for,  which is not to empathise and to Hear, but to...Listen. It's not too late.
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Wow that looks great i may try that 🙂

 

Making me hungry now....we have family lunch booked at a local restaurant later today 

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Just red your post, very we put.

I have just spent over £1100 on two items on Ebay. 

Today  have decided not to use Ebay service again and I have told them so. BFSHGS

 

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I agree on points 1,2 & 3 and most of what you say - the old system worked (most of the time) - although I have stopped loving ebay (I used to) . 

 

Point 4 is a problem as Ebay are presenting the Buyer Protection Fees & Simple Delivery charges as seller income and presenting a figure including these to the HMRC as seller income rather than Ebay's!  These payments never reach the seller as income, nor are they within the sellers control.  Ebay   statements are not in a compatible, auditable HMRC  format and designed purely to further delay payment by deducting subsequent Simple Delivery charges (which are not a seller receipt!) from payouts!  This also creates a false inflated submission to HMRC which implies that the seller is earning the Buyer Protection Fee not Ebay and that the buyer is paying the seller for Simple Delivery postage , not ebay/shipper. I am looking into whether this is legal.

 

Simple Delivery cannot be overridden for packages outside of  ebay & evri profiles creating chaos! 

 

Furthermore, private sellers can't offer combined postage! Ebay forces buyers to pay multiple postage costs and Buyer Protection Fees.  For instance china services are more attractive when broken down but ebay make this inviable!

 

And there's even more  -Packaging cannot be included in postage price so item price needs to inflate cover it - again a selling disadvantage and doesn't comply with accounting categorisation . 

 

A big pat on the back to Bosley2016 - well said- the constant trolling of private sellers is a cheap shot so please stop making ebay issues an 'us and them' situation as what comes to private sellers will come in some way to business sellers at some point.  Stick together and unite to try for positive change. Private buyers are not a threat to business sellers and we are not playing the system so please stop the inferences.  I, like so, so  many, am genuinely downsizing and clearing relatives possessions too, am registered with and have checked with HMRC , just listing as and when and not buying to  sell as a business.  Changing to a business account would imply running a business which combined with ebay's incompetence and deceptive accounting is likely to create a false business profile to HMRC.

 

I love your optimism but sadly I think ebay is lacking intelligent decision makers and feels to be run by school kids playing shop.  A new informed, professional, organised, savvy platform is desperately needed to replace this badly broke Ebay which now  feels now beyond repair. 

 

ironically, while writing this a feature about Ebay has just been aired on BBC Rip Off Britain... SELLERS BEWARE.. Ebay is sending debt collectors to sellers whose ebay accounts have been confirmed by ebay as  having been hacked with fraudulent sales , out of seller & ebay control multiple times!   Maybe it's safer to just close our accounts and get out now - it seems Ebay is now foe not friend to both sellers and buyers and an unsafe platform.

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