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Do people have to register a card to bid now?  Can I cancel a bid after a few hours and offer it someone else? 

I'm aware we all started on zero but the buyer has been on  zero since January and hasn't bought anything and no feedback. 

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You can cancel a bid here:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/listings/selling-auctions/cancelling-bid?id=4140&st=3&pos=1&quer...

 

Block them from bidding again via the link at the bottom of that guidance page.

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You can cancel a bid here:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/listings/selling-auctions/cancelling-bid?id=4140&st=3&pos=1&quer...

 

Block them from bidding again via the link at the bottom of that guidance page.

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@*vyolla* wrote:

Block them from bidding again via the link at the bottom of that guidance page.


I’m sorry, @*vyolla* , but suggesting they block a buyer when they have no evidence of any misconduct is completely wrong.

Cancelling bids for this reason is also wrong.

There’s a reason this setting is not in the “Buyer management” console: https://www.ebay.co.uk/bmgt/buyerrequirements

On that page you will find a setting “Require buyers to provide a payment method before they place a bid”. This should suffice in what you were asking about @lacatus1062, and I believe it is on by default.

 

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They buyer could have set up their account long before purchasing anything for a variety of reasons. The most obvious to me, they bid on at least one auction at the time, but didn’t win it. I’ve sold to a few zero feedback buyers and never had an issue (I can’t say I paid attention to when they registered).

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@*vyolla* wrote:

Block them from bidding again via the link at the bottom of that guidance page.


I’m sorry, @*vyolla* , but suggesting they block a buyer when they have no evidence of any misconduct is completely wrong.

Cancelling bids for this reason is also wrong.

 


With respect, it's really not your call to make - it's the sellers.


The OP's question was can they cancel a bid if they don't feel comfortable with the bidder.

 

My answer was yes, they can. Sellers can cancel bids and, if they do, should always block them from bidding again else there's little point in cancelling a bid. 

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Blocking buyers should be a last resort, not a first inclination.

A buyer having registered months ago and who does not have any feedback yet, does not make them a buyer that should be blocked! It certainly doesn’t fit with eBay’s definition for blocking.

eBay’s help states:

“In very rare cases you may also want to avoid specific bidders who have a history of not paying, or who have been aggressive or threatening in their communications. You can do this by adding a buyer to your blocked buyer list.”

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Sellers may cancel and block whoever they wish. It's 100% their call.

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I may be wrong but I suspect OP may want to cancel a sale not cancel a bid? I apologise if I'm reading your sales wrong OP, but it looks to me as if someone with zero feedback won an auction for a phone yesterday. If they have  not yet paid you really ought to give them a chance. Four days from date of sale is the usual thing. Then if still unpaid, cancel the sale citing non payment.

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A buyers feedback is meaningless (the worst buyer on eBay will have 100% positive). A better guide is to look at feedback they leave for others!

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@*vyolla* wrote:

Sellers may cancel and block whoever they wish. It's 100% their call.


You’re an experienced user on here, so I’ll take your word that they can. (I have no inclination to read through all of eBay’s T&Cs.)

 

My point remains, however. Blocking buyers should be a last resort.

 

There was no good reason to cancel the bid (or sale), in the OP’s example. Definitely not to block them.

 

If every seller refused a sale because it may be troublesome, then nothing would ever be sold.

 

Blocking a buyer based on their previous past actions, even if it were something trivial, may be justified. But blocking a buyer when there is no proof they’ve done anything wrong – I don’t see how that can be defended.

 

An example from my own experience. (This was on a previous, now deleted, eBay account.)

I was the buyer, and the seller marked an item as dispatched after two days. The item took 10 days to arrive. On receipt, I noticed the date they actually posted (i.e. purchased a postage label from the post office) was a week after I purchased. I left them positive feedback, but noted this fact. A few days later I got a message from them saying they had blocked me because of said feedback. For a moment I thought I had actually done something wrong. The seller convinced me I was the bad guy. I even had to fish the packaging out of the bin to make sure I hadn’t got it wrong.
This was also before I knew of seller standards stuff, and that they probably did it to avoid a late postage mark on their profile.

Either way, finding out a seller has blocked you can be a horrible experience. And it’s made 10x worse when you haven’t actually done anything wrong.

 

So, remember that you’re dealing with human beings. Your buyers are people, and, statistically, good people. So don’t treat them like bad people, unless you have a valid reason in doing so.

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T'other side of the coin - sellers are human too and should be treated with the same respect the buyer expects from the seller.

 

Doesn't always happen.

 

In real life, a shop (for example) can refuse to serve or sell you anything - they can ask you to leave too.

 

They can refuse service to any customer or deny them entry to their premises as they have a right to refuse entry or service to anyone they choose.

 

Same goes here - or any site - you can block anyone you want - for any reason.

 

In the past when I sold, I’ve blocked someone (who bought things in the category I used to sell in) because of the way they acted on the Boards - didn’t want the potential hassle.

 

However, it does depend on the reason - for example, if you, as a buyer, think the seller was discriminating against you, then you may have a civil case against them (basis of sex, race, disability, gender, sexual orientation and religion or belief) - although unlikely for an online sale.

 

If someone wants to block anyone, then so be it - their choice and only their choice.

 

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@rare_treat wrote:

@*vyolla* wrote:

Sellers may cancel and block whoever they wish. It's 100% their call.


You’re an experienced user on here, so I’ll take your word that they can. (I have no inclination to read through all of eBay’s T&Cs.)

 

My point remains, however. Blocking buyers should be a last resort.

 

 


If a seller cancels a bid then they should block the bidder.

 

Else what's the point of cancelling a bid? 

 

The bidder can just bid again. 

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eBay are giving away free stuff to (its claimed) try drive new buyers to the site and make things better for business and private sellers. If everyone cancelled bids and purchases from those without a history on this site then that would fail and no new people could use the site.

 

Personally I would not cancel as they will more than likely be fine and go on to be a regular eBay user, maybe even with you, you are protected for most things by eBay as well.

 

It's up to you of course.

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T'other side of the coin - sellers are human too and should be treated with the same respect the buyer expects from the seller.

 

Doesn't always happen.

 


I completely agree. I’ve argued for sellers in other posts.
I still can’t understand why buyers have the right to return an item within 14 days (to a business seller) just because they’ve changed their mind!

 


@*devils.advocate* wrote:

 

In real life, a shop (for example) can refuse to serve or sell you anything - they can ask you to leave too.

 

They can refuse service to any customer or deny them entry to their premises as they have a right to refuse entry or service to anyone they choose.

 

Same goes here - or any site - you can block anyone you want - for any reason.


As you later point out, you can’t really refuse service on any grounds. Those that are clearly discriminatory will get you in trouble. (If not get your shop vandalised in some areas!)

 

In this case, I don’t believe there was enough justification.

 


@*devils.advocate* wrote:

 

In the past when I sold, I’ve blocked someone (who bought things in the category I used to sell in) because of the way they acted on the Boards - didn’t want the potential hassle.


To be clear, I’ve blocked more than a few users in my time. But it should be obvious to them why.

 


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If someone wants to block anyone, then so be it - their choice and only their choice.


In a way, I kind of agree.

My issue is the fact that the first response (and only response at the time) skipped over anything else, and implied the OP should just cancel the bid / sale, and then even block the buyer for good measures. All when the buyer had done nothing wrong (that could be discerned from the info available). And that was also the accepted solution - so it's more likely others in the future would just follow this advice, without actually thinking it through.

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I still can’t understand why buyers have the right to return an item within 14 days (to a business seller) just because they’ve changed their mind!

 

The law - and sometimes it is an ass.

 

As you later point out, you can’t really refuse service on any grounds. Those that are clearly discriminatory will get you in trouble. (If not get your shop vandalised in some areas!)

 

You have selected to miss out the important bit - although unlikely for an online sale.

 

How can you tell the sex of a person, race, disability, gender, sexual orientation and religion or belief from a User ID?

 

Those grounds are unlikely to apply?

 

 

 

And if any seller chooses to cancel a bid - for whatever their reason - it would be foolish not to block that person.

 

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