This is going to mean the end for many small private sellers. "Buyer Protection Fee"

[vinylscot]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/buying/paying-items/buyer-protection?id=5594

75p plus 4% buyers fee, so something which was priced at £5 will be £5.95 in February.

[lionrock_technik]

💯 💯 💯 agree with you there

[lionrock_technik]

Good for you

[myriad*seller]

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@dantwocats wrote:

• it says 

  The fee will be included in the item price from private sellers, so there are no surprises at checkout.

• •	Buyers will pay up to 4% of the item price, plus £0.75.** For example, when they see an item for £20, the fee of £1.49 will already be part of the price.

  The fees is not added on its part of your price , i think 

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So it is actually a private *seller* fee then...  by stealth 

Sellers will include the fee in their prices

The fee will be taken from the *sellers* sale price 

So not really a buyer fee then, a fee imposed on private seller sales, that will reduce the amount private sellers can charge for their items.

Why are they calling it a buyer fee? 

[reasonable-robert]

just a few questions...

will the private sellers leave or be forced into a BS account what about auctions will there still be any and will the charge be added at the end of the auction or could it be where e bay morphs into a quazi vinted or amazon and will e bay in future charge both buyers and sellers like an auction.

or  could this be the last nail in e bays coffin ...either way the future for selling on e bay doesnt look good

[myriad*seller]

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@sweetcharity.2013 wrote:

So I've bid on something & won after 4th February....

ebay states that the buyer will see the cost on the listing but how do they know what the final price is on an auction? I can forsee a few cancelled sales when a buyer suddenly realises the bargain item they've bid on suddenly increases by 4% or so.

"Where can I see how much the Buyer Protection fee is?

When applicable, the Buyer Protection fee will always be included in the item price. At checkout, you'll see it underneath the item name.

At checkout, click on Buyer Protection to see what protection is included and a detailed breakdown of the price."

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Yes, good point

If the 4% fee is included in the final item price in an auction, then it is a *seller* fee not a buyer fee

SELLERS will pay 4% + Xpence of their total end price to eBay

It's a private seller fee, not a buyer fee!  

[myriad*seller]

So is there no fee on auctions or will the fee be deducted from the final price the buyer paid before it is given to the seller? 

Smacks to me as a private seller fee rather than a buyer fee if it reduces the sale price the private seller gets at the end of the day! 

[dantwocats]

ah i see it is added on, but why do buyers need extra protection as they are well protected as it is ? and making low cost items very expensive, letters will need to be tracked, overseas letters/larger letter are the only fair cheap postage at the moment, this will kill the last of the overseas trade + not getting paid for postage which is not cheap, just have to use GSP for all postage ,which again is £££ on small stuff and has stopped my buying from overseas 

[lucy_farmer]

'Why are they calling it a buyer fee?'

Because (rather insultingly) they think we're all stupid enough to believe it!

But realistically, they have learnt to speak 'NewSpeak/DoubleSpeak'.  ( ie. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, etc from 1984)

Business Bullsh** Bingo is getting out of hand 😂

[garcity]

What happens when you put something up for auction?  Are the bid prices adjusted when placed to account for this fee or are the added at the end?

[pitstop.pippa]

Absolutely agree! I list - not necessarily sell - my own personal pre-read books for between £1-1.75 depending on condition. It's hard enough to sell because books rarely mail as a large letter so the postage is a big disincentive for a lot of buyers, even though I always advertise combined postage to make it more worthwhile buying more than one. This new fee will almost double the cost of a £1 book, plus now I will have to use a more expensive tracked service because otherwise how will ebay know the item has been delivered and release my money? It's madness, no one is going to want to pay £2 or more for a used book then tracked postage on top - I might as well give them all to charity. Same for any other low value items, it's not worth the hassle now trying to sell them here.

[technthread]

Scan them into:

Ziffit

Music Magpie 

WeBuyBooks

Take the best offers of the 3. Sometimes you won’t get a fair offer, other times you’ll get more than an eBay net sale amount. 

Cherry pick the best books for eBay and sell others as bundles by author. 

[technthread]

Or as you say, just donate to charity.

I’d do a bit of all 3 options myself. 

[thesmi42]

I think the fee would need to be displayed for each incremental bid and the final fee would be added at the end of the auction (no other way to do it as far as I can see).

I think buyers will soon get wise to the new structure and so if they want to pay say £20 for an item they will need to bid around £18.50.

[incredible_how]

you can (at the moment) book free royal mail collections from your home, including from a safeplace

[blue_sean]

As I understand it, the buyer fee is included not added. In other words, what they bid is what they pay. t's YOU the seller that gets fleeced. none of this "buyer protection" bs - It's just the new commission structure, nothing else.

[wilth3505_gtnhsdglsn]

Vinted has no postage options that are not tracked. This means things costing £1 will have to be sent using the cheapest tracked postage service which is what now? £2.75?

[reasonable-robert]

and how many private sellers would it lose ?

it will send most p.s back to car boots and flea markets

the orignal system when pierres started e bay was 10% for the buyer and seller

it appears e bay shoots itself in the foot again

[incredible_how]

yes the auction thing does seem a bit complicated, does it add 4% as it goes and how clear is that to buyers? I haven't really understood how that happens...

auctions would seem to be the most affected thing

[reasonable-robert]

plus the intrest they make...

[incredible_how]

as far as I understand it, if the auction was listed before 4th Feb it's not affected. But buy it now would all change on Feb 4th