Simple Delivery - "Medium" parcel price

[chrisjo-714]

I have a large Webster's dictionary I have been trying to sell. It weighs just under 4kg. With the box/packaging for postage I have been working on a shipping weight of up to 5kg.  Under 'normal' postage I would select Yodel or Evri 2-5kg parcel at a price of £5.21 or £5.64.

Now with "Simple Delivery" the only option is "up to 15kg" at a cost of (from) £7.19 - Evri's price for a 10-15kg parcel.  Why is there no option for the 2-5kg or 5-10kg price bands that Evri and Yodel have? Even RM Tracked 48 medium 10kg parcel is cheaper at £6.80 (from next week or £6.65 this week).

"Simple Delivery" is adding up to £2 to the shipping cost of the item that either the buyer will have pay if they pay or I will have to add the item price if I offer "free postage" (i.e. I pay the postage).

I am reluctant to list the item using custom postage and a 2-5kg weight option because I don't know what ebay will do when they "automagically" switch all existing listing to Simple Delivery next week. Will they adjust all item prices to take account of their inflated shipping cost by forcing 15kg parcels as the only option for anything over 2kg?

[andha-21]

From a couple of recent examples posted here they actually seem to be going the other way.

A 2kg pack changed to 1kg and the seller has been told they could be fined.

& there was a 1kg that was changed to 100g envelope earlier and the seller had to pay for a new appropriate label.

Those are what I've seen so far.

[rosestudios]

Who told them they could be fined.

In the UK only Law Courts can administer fines.

Other bodies may be able to apply Penalties which are fixed.

[chrisjo-714]

When I started creating the listing for the dictionary the SD "Recommended" postage was up to 2kg. Fortunately I know the item is heavier than that, which is why I looked for other choices. If I had just 'blindly' accepted  the eBay "recommendation" a totally inappropriate label would be generated when the item sells and the item would be rejected at drop-off or surcharges applied on delivery. Once again "Simple Delivery" being anything but in the real world.

I have also now seen there is apparently an exemption for low cost (<£10), lightweight (<100g) items that custom postage can be used. There seems to be some debate if this means any item under £10 (regardless of weight) and any item under 100g (regardless of price) is exempt. If it is any item under £10 regardless of weight may be this item will be exempt from SD.

[andha-21]

@rosestudios 

From the post it looked like eBay 

[rosestudios]

Ebay cannot administer fines

A carrier can possibly add an excess fee.

[edwardian-dreams]

Just a few random thoughts

i get 2.74 for LL up to 750g

3.74 for 1 kg and 4.27 for 2kg

Ive got only RM enabled and those prices seem odd

there is no price difference between 1kg and 2kg for small parcel 

indeed there’s no where to chose small parcel in SD, only weights

RM prices for small and medium are different so how does eBay know if your parcel is small or medium…they don’t…medium is more expensive but those prices aren’t for medium or for small for that matter

its thoroughly confusing to me 

re the medium 2-5kg…RM don’t have that anymore 

it’s 2-10kg then 10-20kg on their latest our prices brochure

Ebay only have 15kg so they’re overcharging for up to 10kg RM parcels because you can only click on up to 15kg

BUT

on my app the postage page has changed today (don’t know about the browser)

it says NEW in green, simple delivery, then there’s a down arrow on the right and it leads to custom postage 

this wasn’t there before 

If it’s there after the 15th maybe they will let us continue switching to custom 

also at the bottom of the weights page you can switch to custom too if your item is heavier or bigger than their choices 

oh lastly, eBay have said that if they “recommend” a certain weight, in your case 2kg, if it turns out heavier they will cover the cost …Vinted do this , I’m not sure how they do it, must be in their arrangements with the delivery companies 

[andha-21]

Looks like you missed the word "legally" from your reply.

But if you have a read round the threads you may see a pattern that suggests they don't care about that.

[rosestudios]

So who is saying they are "fining" someone?

You can only be fined  in a Court of Law.

You can receive a Penalty Notice for an alleged offence but not a fine.

[andha-21]

Going by the way they wrote their post, eBay are saying that. Like I already said in fewer words.

But as I already replied, if you take the time to read into different thread areas here, you will see a consistent pattern immerge. Basically they do whatever they want, whenever they want.

I do understand what you are trying to say but you are confusing should not with can not. They can do whatever they like but they shouldn't.

[rosestudios]

Ebay are a legally  Registered Company with Companies House in the UK and I can assure you they are in no way allowed to "fine" anyone As I previously stated the only person that can issue a fine on any Citizen is  member of the Judiciary of the United Kingdom. 

Ebay will obviously have their own rules regarding their procedures, which they would have to publish, but rest assured they have no authority in the UK to fine or administer financial hardship to anyone.

[andha-21]

Legal consequence does not prohibit illegal activity.

You seem to know about the law and it's intentions. It appears you don't know much about eBay.

Plenty of threads here if you want to learn about them. Loads of examples and I do mean loads. 

In all honesty I can't fathom how they still exist in the UK market.

[rosestudios]

Of course it doesn't .

If it did then no one would break the law I guess.

I think I may know quite a lot about Ebay as i have been a member since the early days 2001 in fact which was 2 years after they first appeared in the UK.

Lots of changes believe me, But we got through them.

They exist simply because  people need them.

Good or bad