R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

[yorkscollectables]

The introduction of the eBay Buyer Protection fee of 75p plus 4% of the value of goods,  effective from 19th February 2025 has effectively killed off eBay (UK).

Buyers have walked away and Private Sellers are now forced to drastically reduce their prices to try to compete with 'Business Sellers', who are not subject to the eBay Buyer Protection fees.

It's a great shame, and unless eBay's management team in San Jose, California see the error of their ways, and quickly, there will be nothing left to salvage from the wreckage !!

[papso22]

It's fair to say most private accounts used for selling that post on the boards are not happy.  That's really as far as you can take it.

Posters are a microcosm of total users.

[yorkscollectables]

My observations about Buyers being unhappy at having to pay this absurd Buyer Protection Fee still stands.

It's putting Buyers off and its hitting sales.

Anybody that wants to argue that point is free to do so, but I KNOW I AM RIGHT, REGARDLESS

In the meantime if anybody wants to buy any of my original WW2 Campaign Medals feel free to look through my listings.😀😀

[andha-21]

So if I want to argue a different point DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT RIGHT, REGARDLESS?

[vinylscot]

Should we encourage buyers to message bogus "private" sellers, to ask them why there is a BPF being charged on their listings, as they are obviously not genuine private sellers? The increase in the price of these sellers' items is 100% down to the sellers themselves, NOT eBay. If they operated by the applicable consumer rights laws, and eBay's rules, there would be no BPF applied.

[buffster1963]

They know that but it does not stop them moaning about it being added. 

[the-nutwood-collection]

Private Sellers are now forced to drastically reduce their prices to try to compete with 'Business Sellers', who are not subject to the eBay Buyer Protection fees.

Forced to reduce prices to try to complete with business sellers?  A private seller has an uplift of 4% + 75p on their price.  As a business seller, I pay FVF of 12.9%, plus Regulatory Operating Fee, plus 30p Transaction Charge, plus VAT - that amounts to 18% of every sale disappearing into eBay's coffers.

I would be absolutely delighted to only pay 4% + 75p on every sale.

[ruby*ryan]

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@the-nutwood-collection wrote:

Private Sellers are now forced to drastically reduce their prices to try to compete with 'Business Sellers', who are not subject to the eBay Buyer Protection fees.

Forced to reduce prices to try to complete with business sellers?  A private seller has an uplift of 4% + 75p on their price.  As a business seller, I pay FVF of 12.9%, plus Regulatory Operating Fee, plus 30p Transaction Charge, plus VAT - that amounts to 18% of every sale disappearing into eBay's coffers.

I would be absolutely delighted to only pay 4% + 75p on every sale.

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Would you still be delighted if someone bought 10 items from you (on different listings) and the price was pushed up by 4% + £7.50? Or do you think they would hit the back button when they realised there was an extra 75p per item?

[andha-21]

Think about your question and then take a closer look at the wording from eBay.

It's "Buyer Protection Fund". Not "Item Protection Fund".

They aren't allowed to charge 1 buyer multiple times for protection for the same transaction. That's illegal.

That's almost certainly why the invoice system is now "broken".

[yorkscollectables]

This isn't about Business Sellers versus Private Sellers, its much bigger and more important than that. Its about the NEGATIVE impact that the eBay Buyer Protection Fee is having on the entire market place.

BUYERS are being put off by having to pay this absurd fee.

[vinylscot]

It is absolutely a Private Sellers Vs some Business Sellers (those who are masquerading as Private Sellers) thing.

I agree with everyone else when I say that eBay has handled this , and some other changes (recent and future) badly.

If they had been more proactive in policing the incorrect use of private accounts, the whole BPF issue may never have arisen.

The "absurd" fee, as you put it, is the consequence of eBay utterly failing to manage their own platform, and dishonest business sellers taking advantage of that.

[forestfeline62]

Mine and my partners have been very poor ,only stuff I wanted to clear out at a low price got any sales ,anything else has been stuck on the starting block ,my partner usually has 3 sales a day but it is dead for him too ,so we have joined another platform who will appreciate the support sellers give them .

[forestfeline62]

In a few years to come people will be saying ,"do you remember that company Ebay "? 

[yorkscollectables]

forestfeline62

‎01-03-2025 10:00 PM

In a few years to come people will be saying ,"do you remember that company Ebay "? 

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Yes, I completely agree. 

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[yorkscollectables]

The issue here is the introduction of this absurd and costly eBay Buyer Protection Fee  and the NEGATIVE impact  it has had on EVERYBODY'S sales !!

This has absolutely nothing to do with who is a Private Seller or who is a Business Seller. Opinions about who  should or shouldn't be a Business Seller is irrelevant,

The eBay Buyer Protection Fee  has pushed up prices for Buyers, and they aren't happy.

THIS IS A FACT

(To all the employees of eBay on here masquerading as fellow users / forum contributors,   YOU ARE SO TRANSPARENT WE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU)

[papso22]

Actually it has everything to do with private sellers who should have business accounts because their buyers should not be paying the fees as they are actually buying from a business.  This is a fact.

I am surprised you can't see that.

Ebay employees have a blue square round their posts.

[andha-21]

@papso22 

Pfft we all know about the Mentors free Ferrari's ...

I submit my claim for a secondhand Fiat Uno again.

I've done some help, not as much as you guys though.

[1956glyn]

Ha ha you need to lower your expectations.  I had a mug with chocolates and a few Ebay notebooks and stickers 🙂  They were nice and a token of appreciation.

[vinylscot]

Firstly, any contributions from eBay employees are clearly marked as such. None of the other contributors are employed or paid by eBay.

Secondly, as every right-thinking contributor has acknowledged, in this and many other threads, the whole issue of BPF may not even have arisen if there were not so many business sellers, masquerading as private sellers.

eBay certainly hold much of the blame for this situation, because of their long-standing tolerance of the problem, and their continual refusal to address it. But to claim that this is not a private/business seller issue just makes no sense at all, even if you are simply attempting to justify your own trading position.

It seems to be accepted that one of the ideas behind the BPF was to coax dishonest "private" sellers into converting their accounts to business accounts. I don't know how effective that has been, but I do hope it is the beginning of eBay sorting this mess out giving these fraudulent sellers one last opportunity to comply, before stepping up the pressure. I'm not confident, but there's always hope.

[tommystrezures]

What you weren’t told is said Ferrari came in a box with matchbox or corgi printed on it 😂

we are unpaid volunteers in seriousness though.

[papso22]

Mine was full sized!  But it was plastered with ebay logos so it stays in the garage.