03-01-2025 8:50 PM
The new regulations on ebay to arrive in February just prove that they are trying to convert Private Sellers to Business sellers. Buyers will noe have to pay ebay for expensive postal and courier rates which I know that I can get cheaper through Royal Mail or Yodel.
So we will be priced out of the market and I think buyers will be going elsewhere probably to Amazon to get better deals.
Not sure how this can improve ebay for buyers or sellers frankly. Very disappointing.
03-01-2025 8:55 PM
I think this is part of Ebay's master plan to make sellers that trade as businesses on private accounts, upgrade, or leave.
Businesses buy, make, or grow, things to sell. Private sellers sell off their unwanted personal possessions.
03-01-2025 8:55 PM
Yes sadly ebay and business sellers hate us 😞
03-01-2025 8:56 PM
Frankly...it stinks! I for one will be closing my eBay account (successfully operating on eBay for 22 years with 100% feedback). I just don't need this hassle/stress in my life!
03-01-2025 8:58 PM
It seems you are not alone !
03-01-2025 8:59 PM - edited 03-01-2025 8:59 PM
I am opposed to people who are actually trading, masquerading as private sellers and breaking the law in the process.
I have absolutely nothing against genuine private sellers who are simply selling off their own unwanted personal possessions, including collections.
03-01-2025 9:02 PM
Yes sadly ebay and business sellers hate us
I am a business seller and I buy quite a bit from private sellers on my private account, I love looking to see what they have for sale.
I do however have a problem with business sellers using private accounts to sell for free.
03-01-2025 9:05 PM
Hi there,
I totally agree, I have happily sent items via Royal Mail with no problem, However now with the new rules as a private seller I won’t be paid till after delivery- ebay says to use tracked postage- so I will pass this on to buyers. May swap to Vinted.
03-01-2025 9:10 PM
You are trading as a business, albeit you're currently incorrectly registered on a private account.
A private seller is one who is just selling off their own personal items such as clothes from their wardrobe, bits from their loft/garage etc.
A Business seller is someone who buys, grows or makes items to sell on. They need to be registered as a business to meet the requirements of UK law. eBay will be providing HMRC with your details anyway so it's vital to keep correct accounts for your tax return - you can obviously offset more expenses as a business seller, but can't offset any at all as a private one.
04-01-2025 12:18 AM
I always send everything recorded and I would say that the tracking for around one in ten items doesn't get updated by the Royal Mail. Most of the time I don't get anyone trying to pull a fast one and they even leave feedback.
I just think how Ebay have now decided to change the rules is a bit of a joke. They must have thought about minor issues like this. I've only had one problem recently with someone taking advantage of the busy Christmas post to get an item for free and as a result I stopped selling over Christmas. Thankfully, to Ebay's credit, they did give me the money back even after I sent the refund.
I'll see how it goes and if this does become an issue, I'll just stick to buying and pack in the selling side. It's a shame as I was doing well getting rid of a lot of my unwanted comics etc. and then they do this. I knew it was too good to be true when they made it free to sell.
Like many others have said, it looks like they want everyone to change to a business account. That's not for me.
04-01-2025 1:04 AM
I don’t think swapping to Vinted will be worth it.
Vinted do exactly the same as EBay by taking control of labels, with them they select the postage to charge by telling the buyer what to pay. They take their share from the payment then send you the label. I used them twice, I selected RM as my only choice, when I got the label it didn’t allow me to arrange collection. ( I am housebound) So I had to cancel the sale. I have also heard of Vinted having a lot of scammers as their dispute team accept the buyer version. You can only message them no phone contact.
i think EBay is going the same way taking control of our accounts. It was too good to be true that we could sell free for the long haul.
04-01-2025 10:40 AM
As a eBay member since October 2000 I’m offended by the way eBay are treating me.
I have sold probably near on a 800 items since 2003 over the last 21 years.
Never had a negative feedback as a seller, always post within 2 days (95% within a day of selling), unless a buyer requests a delay in posting and only had one item returned where buyer changed their mind. I have refunded and told a buyer to keep an item where they didn’t read description correctly once and formed good relationships with multi repeat buyers (coin collectors).
With my 100% record eBay are now telling me they don’t trust me as a seller and will hold my money from sales for up to 14 days until buyer receives item.
What a way to treat a customer of 24 years eBay!
Im going to have to now reconsider if I want to use a platform that doesn’t trust me as a seller.
I will obviously no longer buy from eBay either. Why should I pay a tax of 4% (plus 75p) to buy something when Amazon has zero buyer fees?
04-01-2025 11:43 AM
@plantsandsucculents wrote:The new regulations on ebay to arrive in February just prove that they are trying to convert Private Sellers to Business sellers. Buyers will noe have to pay ebay for expensive postal and courier rates which I know that I can get cheaper through Royal Mail or Yodel.
So we will be priced out of the market and I think buyers will be going elsewhere probably to Amazon to get better deals.
Not sure how this can improve ebay for buyers or sellers frankly. Very disappointing.
Originally before Ebay chose to offer Private Sellers Zero-Seller-Fees - we used to receive fortnightly 70% or 80% Ebay seller fees discount offers - which used to run fortnightly between the listing day period of Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday (Only). I used to love this, and I always listed on those special offer days. In fact, before Ebay moved to the Managed Payments scheme and removed Paypal altogether - then we used to get (£1 Ebay Seller Fees offers). These were hugely popular, and at least Ebay used to make quite a bit of profit out of this. Certainly more than getting Zero-Sellers-Fees for 100% of the time from Private Sellers.
So, Ebay saw what Vinted had done with them offering Zero seller fees and followed similar-suit, as let's face it, it is a much more competitive marketplace in the 2020's - as a lot also use FB and Wix which is free. However, it was always a Gamble (on their part), and in my opinion, I think the Gamble did not pay off - which is why they have had to quickly make some changes. Naturally Business sellers have been getting upset - since they have to pay, and Private sellers pay nothing in Ebay Sellers Fees, so now Ebay Buyers have to pay a 4% + 75p extra premium on top of the Private Sellers listed prices. So, a £100 item shall now cost them £104.75 instead + the P&P in most cases.
The reason (I think) that being Business Sellers was originally so off-putting, was, that Business Sellers never got any discounted Ebay Selling Fees Offers ever. So, you'd have to charge an additional £12.60 + 30p on top of a £100 item - bringing it to £112.90 to the buyer to cover those Ebay Fees, or forfeit those fees yourself. That is not always doable though, as naturally Business sellers have to buy the item to then sell on, so that would eat into your profit-margins of your business - even before you end up having to pay the tax man and maybe VAT as well on top. Of course, Private sellers simply selling off items they have themselves already don't have to worry about that so much.
My concern is really about the means in which to post the items to the buyers on Ebay. I want to continue on with using my local Post Office and leave it to the Professionals at the counter service there, who are efficient - and I don't have to go to the trouble of the DIY approach and buying scales to weigh parcels and filling everything in online with 'Any' other form of postal service. As long as that remains, I can accept these changes. I don't mind waiting a bit longer for the money, but I think I shall switch to only sending items by Special Delivery at £9.75 - £10.35 per cost-price - and - International Tracked and/or Signed For for parcels going abroad. At least Ebay knows for a Fact that the item has been not just sent - but also arrived at the address of the buyer. If it gets to the point whereby complications arrive where sellers don't get paid, then they'll be a lot of people complaining to eBay. Why bring lots of trouble which they can easily avoid, by either keeping things the same, or reverting back to how things was before.
04-01-2025 3:30 PM
I'm sorry but wasn't ebay founded on PRIVATE sellers selling their seconded hand goods? it should have stayed that way it was ebay who introduced business sellers just to make more money they have ruined what once was a great platform, ebay is NOT amazon it should have stayed for private sellers only, all you Business sellers who point your fingers at 'private' business sellers just remember what ebay originally started from!
04-01-2025 3:55 PM
Absolutely agree with you, my thoughts exactly. ebay should never have been for businesses...They've ruined it !
04-01-2025 3:59 PM
You were a business seller ( unregistered) on both your accounts, which is why your accounts were restricted. Stop playing the private seller victim card.
04-01-2025 4:03 PM
Yes, me too after 15 years. I've had enough!
04-01-2025 4:05 PM
For low value items it's better taking yourself to AliExpress as they have a far wider choice and I always check them before committing to buy anything on eBay. In most cases it's a better deal on Aliexpress, particularly with user images and videos uploaded to the product page with their feedback. They also have a buyer protection plan, and they give partial or full refunds when the item doesn't arrive on time. It's worth making written lists of what you want to buy and then do it in bulk so you can take advantage of combined shipping and the numerous money off vouchers they have site-wide. eBay has no real feedback on product pages beyond seller's feedback, which is automated now anyway. eBay is a dinosaur.
I have already reported eBay to Ofcom regarding their "free to sell" advert campaign which has proven to be highly misleading, then just a few short weeks later sellers being forced to lose £1.75 of the item's value snatched by eBay, who think they can skirt around the rules by pretending that the customer pays for it, when in reality customers will go elsewhere where the item is priced at it's actual value without a £1.75 premium tax for being an eBay customer unless the seller takes the hit to sell it at market rates.
It's no different to when Uber, Deliveroo etc started slapping fees on both the customer side and the business side after spending money advertising to bring in customers, and would you credit it, there's been a massive drop in the use of such services and the revenue of the companies has only accelerated the losses.
Whether you choose to look at it as the buyer having to pay even more tax on top of the 20% VAT the treasury steals, or as a massive scam on eBay having rug pulled private sellers after spending so much money on advertising to revive a dying platform, the end result is the same - it's more expensive for buyers to come to eBay, and they will lose any loyalty they had to the site.
Just download the info you need, withdraw the last of your funds, and then use the "close account" button by searching in the help guide on the main site.
As a late-stage capitalism slave if you don't withdraw your labour then the slave masters will continue to take more and more until they break you. That's the only way they can extract wealth from you, so cut them off and stop being their primary breadwinners.
Don't be a slave. Walk away, untangle yourself from this shareholder infinite money farm.
04-01-2025 4:05 PM
Here we go again ! More hate towards a private seller. I am not a business, I sell as a hobby and make no taxable profit. HMRC are aware of this.
My account is restricted at present because for some reason ebay seem to think that my items sold have not been delivered, even though the tracking confirms it has and I have feedback from buyers too. It seems that ebay are unable to view tracking ! God ebay are a mess 😞
04-01-2025 4:08 PM - edited 04-01-2025 4:10 PM
You have been told over and over again that needing a business account has nothing to do with HMRC, profit or taxes. It's the only way you can comply with consumer law.
You buy those trains with the intention of selling them, that is trading, whether you like it or not.
And then you further break the rules by opening this account to get round the restrictions on your other one.