NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[andha-21]

@akemp1 

"I've worked with a lot of expensive lawyers and in the end the facts of a situation still carry a lot of weight. If you have done nothing wrong and someone else has caused a problem then it's going to be hard for them to pin it on you."

So have I and by expensive I mean Clifford Chance. & yes, what you say regarding facts and situations are true. But those are actuated on by courts, not lawyers. 

But the problem comes down to this.

If I know that I cannot fulfill a delivery date being quoted by eBay I should cancel the transaction and seek new terms. If I don't I am party to it.

But as I no longer have any direct postage contract with the buyer, the liability for that contract lands on eBay. Normally what happens in that scenario is they (any business/private entity, not specifically meaning eBay) try to relay the blame to anyone they can.

In that scenario their easy hit is me 

[nikolai6]

As a seller for over twenty years, this is probably the final straw for me too.  I live rurally and often sell golf clubs from my collection, and of the two "options" eBay is imposing, one won't allow long enough parcels and the other offers no drop offs within an hour or where I live (I can't get collections either). I was told that I can simply not use the labels, then tell the buyer the tracking, and I will probably be paid in a fortnight.  That's not good enough.

This is on top of holding my money - to the point where this week a buyer who asked for faster postage than listed (which I arranged) then missed the delivery - and i don't get paid until they bother to go and collect the parcel. Madness!!

[akemp1]

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@andha-21 wrote:

But as I no longer have any direct postage contract with the buyer, the liability for that contract lands on eBay. Normally what happens in that scenario is they (any business/private entity, not specifically meaning eBay) try to relay the blame to anyone they can.

In that scenario their easy hit is me 

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In some ways by no longer taking the money for arranging the postage any liability you may have for ebay's optimistic delivery timescales is reduced. Ebay might try and blame you but to take action they would need to rely on the terms  between yourself and ebay which don't require you to drop everything whenever a sale happens.

[akemp1]

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@nikolai6 wrote:

As a seller for over twenty years, this is probably the final straw for me too.  I live rurally and often sell golf clubs from my collection, and of the two "options" eBay is imposing, one won't allow long enough parcels and the other offers no drop offs within an hour or where I live (I can't get collections either). I was told that I can simply not use the labels, then tell the buyer the tracking, and I will probably be paid in a fortnight.  That's not good enough.

This is on top of holding my money - to the point where this week a buyer who asked for faster postage than listed (which I arranged) then missed the delivery - and i don't get paid until they bother to go and collect the parcel. Madness!!

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Yeah that sounds awful hope you find another platform to keep selling those long golf clubs.

[akemp1]

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@cblack68 wrote:

I'm also seriously considering leaving eBay too, but not sure where else to sell? I don't want to go to. Who/what is evident that you mentioned please? Tia

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We're not allowed to name the other places here but yes that's the problem ebay are so dominant they have no direct competitor covering the full range of categories and with enough footfall to enable you to buy or sell pretty much anything. That's why some of us have reported  ebay's announced mandatory bundling of their unattractive postage to the Competition and Markets Authority as potentially abusive behaviour. The more people that report them the more likely there will be an investigation if the CMA find there are grounds for concern.

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"In some ways by no longer taking the money for arranging the postage any liability you may have for ebay's optimistic delivery timescales is reduced. Ebay might try and blame you but to take action they would need to rely on the terms between yourself and ebay which don't require you to drop everything whenever a sale happens."

Yes well, that little loophole might get closed in the next set of T&Cs.   The last lot of Payment T&Cs were over 12,000 words.  The Privacy Notice was over 2,000 words.  The User Agreement was over 9,000 words.  Who would notice if ebay slipped in that they required sellers to immediately jump through the nearest hoop to post the package?

[sekisho]

You can use the tracking number from the Simple Delivery label to book a collection on Royal Mail's site. You'll have to print the label yourself, there's no way to ask them to bring a label.

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"I'm also seriously considering leaving eBay too, but not sure where else to sell? I don't want to go to vented. Who/what is evident that you mentioned please?"

Check out the rest of this thread - lots of alternative names have been mentioned here, and as far as I know, the posts haven't been removed.  I was only half-joking when I said in this thread that we're doing ebay a favour by sending sellers to other sites.  Ebay doesn't want sellers like us here.  Their CEO said so.  Do a search for "Jamie Iannone high value buyers" and you'll see that his strategy for ebay is to focus on "high-value buyers; buyers that are buying over $800, buying six times a year".    I believe he's even on Youtube expounding the same philosophy, although I haven't bothered to listen to it.  It's taken me a long time to wake up and smell the coffee, but I've well and truly got the message now.

Below is just a small extract of what he's said about going for "high value" sales.  Somewhere in the last couple of days I've seen figures as to how many sellers ebay has lost, but evidently they don't mind because they don't want sellers like us.  Once you accept that, everything they've done recently makes more sense.

We've discontinued legacy tactics that led to low value, infrequent or one and done buyers. Our buyer base is starting to evolve based on this strategy. These high-volume buyers are growing compared to a year-ago and their spend on eBay is growing even faster. This higher-quality mix of buyers increases value for sellers and will lead to improved health of our ecosystem over the long-term.

This is something that I laid out last July when we talked about the tech-led reimagination as being focused on turning buyers into lifelong enthusiasts on the platform and moving away from the tactics that we had in 2019 what was really just about the number of active buyers even low value buyers or one and done buyers. I've got the whole organization pivoted to focusing on those high-value buyers; buyers that are buying over $800, buying six times a year, or buyers who sell.

[blackhorse47]

Could someone please tell me how they think this brave new world will work as I’ve yet to read any clear statement about this. So:

1. If I sell a large letter item under 100g and under £10 (inc postage?), I can print off my £1.55 label as I’ve always done and stick it in a postbox.
2. If I sell a large letter item under 100g but for more than £10 I get condemned to use ebay’s new much-better label that costs £2.70, but I can still just stick it in a postbox, although due to lack of proof of postage it’ll take a while to get paid.
3. If a sell a small parcel, I can’t stick it in a postbox and I have to find a royal mail parcel drop off point (Evri only theoretically operate in my area) or some such.

Thanks.

[andha-21]

@moonlight-rhapsody 

If that's true, then they are idiots. I don't know the current transfer rate but I wouldn't be surprised if I spend around £600 some months and considering year was a qualifier they used I think there's a good chance I'm one of their high value buyers.

But I'm still gone in a selling sense, which means my purchases won't be as high.

Lose lose.

You have my applause Jamie.

[action_man]

@kath3735_wxmjn"WOW, one of the few times i have actually liked your posts!"
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Thanks. That's very generous of you. In return, I'll be sure to let you know when I like one of yours.

[akemp1]

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@moonlight-rhapsody wrote:

Check out the rest of this thread - lots of alternative names have been mentioned here, and as far as I know, the posts haven't been removed. 

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I've never mentioned any other places by their name. Strangely they seem to have no issue with more blatant posts by others or my suggestion that ebay may be breaking UK competition law and should be investigated by a relevant authority as I guess there is no rule against that.

[rugbyguy1960]

I'm sure many other buyer/sellers like myself don't think we could ever be classed as "one and done" after being on here 20 years. They never complained when they were getting money off us for every transaction. I truly hope he's ethos regarding greed will come back and bite him hard as well as the other minions that believe in him. Fleecebay really is a appropriate name for this lot.

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"I've never mentioned any other places by their name but have still been contacted by the mods where they have edited my posts in this thread to remove sentences containing similar sounding words. Strangely they seem to have no issue with more blatant posts by others"

Evidently they want us to be blatent so that we'll go - obvious innit!   

[akemp1]

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@moonlight-rhapsody wrote:

This is something that I laid out last July when we talked about the tech-led reimagination as being focused on turning buyers into lifelong enthusiasts on the platform and moving away from the tactics that we had in 2019 what was really just about the number of active buyers even low value buyers or one and done buyers. I've got the whole organization pivoted to focusing on those high-value buyers; buyers that are buying over $800, buying six times a year, or buyers who sell.

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I'm a buyer who was spending over $800 (£615) a month, buying six times a week and who sold and who was a 'lifelong enthusiast' for over 24 years and their insane and oppressive policies are risking turning me into a lifelong enemy.

It's so weird having spent £0 on ebay since the announcement. I am sitting here with literally nothing due to arrive and since suspending my sales nothing to pack and post. That doesn't happen often. Cold turkey.

[rugbyguy1960]

I think all that is happening is the mods don't like other platform being mentioned by name and so a lot of posts are being amended but there are a lot that have been given 1 day bans and that is a fact. This place and it's management have got so much to answer for.

[pilsburys-bargains]

how do i unsubscribe from the emails i am receiving on this board for this topic. i had over 300 this morning. I am viewing it on laptop and under options on right hand side and next to original post there is no option to unsubscribe.  There is only an option to subscribe. I tried clicking the unsubscribe link at bottom of email but it takes me to ebay page that states 'we are unable to complete your request-closed. Thank you for your question. Since this area of the eBay community has been switched off, we ask you to visit our Discussion Boards where you can ask your question'. 

Is there an option using the app on an iphone. I can't even find the discussion boards on the app.

[rugbyguy1960]

Have you marked a message as spam then they'll go to your spam box.

[wiganyankeeron]

Could someone try a TEST listing for a postcard and see if they can see the postage cost as 85P as it was earlier in the week.. Ive posted earlier I cant' see that cost now???  cheapest postage now is showing  £2.74.  for both letters and large letters up to 750gms..

[pilsburys-bargains]

Just tried to list a postcard for you up to 100g and it is showing as royal mail  £2.74