NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[kevin*cedar]

I guess a easy way to put it is ....... If in fact you have someone that is shoving Brussel Sprouts into your mouth and you have a strong dislike for Brussel sprouts Do you keep on allowing it to happen  OR do you tell the person that you do not like Brussel sprouts and have the   backbone to speak up  and not go along with it

[falklandrover]

There are many like you who have not gone down the smart phone route. We will die out, and then the state will be able to control everyone.

[vinylscot]

I'm not going to rise to the bait. I may not agree with you, but I'm not trying to change your minds.

I have repeatedly stated that it is entirely up to you what you do, and how you view SD.

I think I'm entitled to expect the same courtesy in return.

[goodibags]

It's ok, we hear the sound of heels being dug in and respect and salute your decision to ignore all the available evidence. 😉

[grapecr-30]

Just popping in to see what's going on/being said, and I'm still not selling or buying on eBay, and yes I am depressed because of it....

Dear eBay,here is a thought, why don't you just make Complicated Delivery optional again, and make everyone happy, just think, you will cut the Threads complaining about Simple Delivery by at least 50% overnight , Please come to your senses eBay, you are destroying what was once a great platform.....

[the_book_seekers]

The concept of being "bossed about" is a bit of a red herring. In any environment such as eBay, there are certain rules and regulations which need to be observed. SD is merely a change to those rules and regulations.

I have to disagree with you here. SD is not a 'change' in rules and regulations, it is the imposition of a completely new set of rules and ones which removed a sellers power of choice on postage. 

[crn303]

Absolutely spot on with your contents, the_book_sellers. 

[jonatjonatjonat]

It is eBay’s choice to position themselves as a full end to end service now. I’m fairly certain they’d enforce simple delivery across the board for private sellers if it were feasible (Vinted do) but they are lumbered with a broader catalogue than Vinted.

The question of freedom of choice isn’t on what postage you can use. It’s on whether you use eBay or not to achieve your aim of shipping your unwanted goods. Because there are many other ways you could advertise things you don’t want, sell it, take payment and ship it your way. It’s just eBay may no longer be that way.

[the_book_seekers]

My point was that private sellers had the power of choice and that's been taken away from them. Yes it just leaves them with the decision to sell or not. ebay has been slowly removing control of listing from sellers for years and this is their latest move. Vinted can operate the way it does because it has been that way from the start.

[punzel9072]

If eBay want to limit their 'catalogue' to match that of vinted, then why don't they say so? eBay earned it's name by allowing anybody to sell almost anything in an online marketplace, as a reasonable cost (seller fee). That is no longer possible and a great many items are almost impossible to sell (at a reasonable price) owing to eBay imposing restrictions on on what methods of postage can be used, and what price can be charged, because eBay have decided that a tracked service has to be used at far greater cost than is necessary, and that Evri has to be an option otherwise they will increase further charge for Royal Mail services. It simply does not benefit the buyer, who has to pay a lot more, and does not benefit the seller, as many of their items will become uneconomic to sell, and that in turn does not benefit eBay who will have seen far fewer sales, and therefore less turnover. It also has the knock-on effect that many eBay sellers will no longer be buying on the eBay platform too, because fewer items are available and purchases would have been funded by sales.

[goodibags]

Just yesterday you were suggesting to someone complaining about SD that they could switch to a business account. Presumably because SD won't be forced on even the smallest business sellers for at least another 3 months or maybe 6 months? Ok, you didn't speculate on an earliest possible date, only that the very largest players would stay exempt.

How do you see that fitting with Ebay's determination to 'position themselves as a full end to end service'? And how do you see it going down with business users?

[jonatjonatjonat]

I still don’t believe that will happen to business users. Because businesses have contracts with couriers themselves and integration software that would need untangling.

private sellers don’t (or at least shouldn’t)

i didn’t speculate at all that business sellers would be forced to use simple delivery. Because I don’t believe they will.

forced to ship tracked maybe. Forced to pay more if they don’t use simple delivery possibly. But not forced to use simple delivery.

if they were, I’d speculate that many businesses would either work out how to use simple delivery or walk and sell elsewhere. Oh, wait, now what does that sound like…?

[kevin*cedar]

You have made some great points I started buying and selling on eBay almost 16 years ago I considered it to be a great Trustworthy platform with some unique sellers and it did over the years become a great  online market place 

No one by comparison could offer the selection of items that could be found on its website but over the years I have seen that dwindle  Especially  in the last 12  months  other websites are now offering unique  items  that once appeared  only on eBay  eBay  now appears that they want to change and  be like some of the other online platforms  added to that it also appears that they now want to be a  third party  controlling parcel service

[gjalp]

As a business, Id walk if it was forced or had other restrictions and conditions if not using it. I post using stamps as that is what my buyers want and I know this because they have told me. They also prefer commemorative stamps. That said, Im already using other placrs to sell because this year, quite frankly, ebay is pants. Big style. I have never sold so little in over 20 years. 

[gjalp]

With businesses, ebay has brought in this ‘thing’ (thing because as usual my brain isn’t working and I forget what they have called it) where you send your stock to some warehouse and someone else does all your picking and packing. A bit like Amazon fulfillment centre but you contact them for a quote on cost. Not something Id sign up to anyway. 

[jonatjonatjonat]

If I was a betting anything, enforcing an end to end tracked service requirement would be what eBay might enforce on businesses.

Amazon did, it was not popular, but it has not been rolled back.

[gjalp]

Vinted are expanding their categories. No longer is it just for clothing and accessories. 

[goodibags]

Ok, so definitely NOT Simple Delivery? How about Less Simple Delivery? L.S.D. for short.

[gjalp]

I went through my large saved sellers list this week. Most of them have 0 items for sale. These are not just sellers Ive saved because I like what they sell. They are saved because I purchased from them on a regular basis over the years. 

[gjalp]

SD has several main issues. The first, the lack of proper combined postage, then the fact that it is overcharging for services especially if you select RM only (I have this selected, I won’t use Evri), then there is the insistence that even low priced items are sent tracked, this is pricing them out (and it is these items that would more than likely be part of combined postage), the weight ranges are restricted, you don’t know which service is being used until payment is received and why are sellers still being graded on postage cost when it is ebay that sets it?