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AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

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@akemp1 wrote:

@mermaidwiggle wrote:

Package size - I want to send mine as Large Letter up to 250g 2nd Class for £1.76. The only option I'm getting for Large Letter is 1st Class up to 1KG for £2.74. RM site shows up to 750g (that's the highest for large letter - don't know what weighs that much with the dimensions restrictions! slab of granite?) at £3.30


RM recently increased Large Letter weight options to 1kg although not all of their site has been updated yet. 


Confusingly, the 1kg weight limit only applies to Royal Mail Tracked.  Royal Mail Standard Tariff is still 750g.

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Ah that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is for me to pay the same rate for one booklet weighing 120g when RM would only charge me £1.72.

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@sml192 wrote:

@akemp1 wrote:

@mermaidwiggle wrote:

Package size - I want to send mine as Large Letter up to 250g 2nd Class for £1.76. The only option I'm getting for Large Letter is 1st Class up to 1KG for £2.74. RM site shows up to 750g (that's the highest for large letter - don't know what weighs that much with the dimensions restrictions! slab of granite?) at £3.30


RM recently increased Large Letter weight options to 1kg although not all of their site has been updated yet. 


Confusingly, the 1kg weight limit only applies to Royal Mail Tracked.  Royal Mail Standard Tariff is still 750g.


It would also appear that the weight limit for Royal Mail Tracked is still 750g if bought at the Post Office. 

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Yes but you'll have to pay extra postage and possibly customs fees if you buy it from Joe in Australia. Who are you going to buy it from now?

 

A french customer wants to buy the same widget. He sees my price sans BPF and it's cheaper postage than Joe. Who do you think will get the sale?

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"Large letter is the next big issue with SD that I would like to see resolved as for items under £20 there is no need for tracking"

 

Yes, I agree. Large letters up to £20 have no need for tracking. But then small parcels to the same value have no need for it either. In other words, only impose tracked postage on those items that actually need it!

 

Allowing sellers (those that are still here) to use up their postage stamps, bought in good faith.

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I drink plenty of tea but (although not angry) am still not happy over the introduction of SD.  When they finally stop me using custom (still manage it even though they say they have transferred me to SD and that is what shows up when i first list) then i will be gone.

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or they did not anticipate just how stubborn some Brits can be, a typical yank mistake to underestimate us!  We take so much and then explode.

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Large letters up to £20 have no need for tracking. But then small parcels to the same value have no need for it either. In other words, only impose tracked postage on those items that actually need it!

Allowing sellers (those that are still here) to use up their postage stamps, bought in good faith.

 

Absolutely right, there is no need at all for low value items (up to £20) to be tracked as normal Royal Mail postage is perfectly adequate if a free certificate of posting is obtained at time of posting as that gives compensation in the very unlikely event of loss. I think in 20 years of being a seller on eBay, I can only recall 4 or 5 occasions when something was lost, and Royal Mail paid compensation in full. I have no problem in tracking items valued over £20, although don't see why I should pay more than the standard rates to do so.

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I drink coffee and certainly haven't got over it.  Neither do I think we should roll over and be exploited by greedy US corporations.

 

I was so incensed by the Orange Bully Boy's tariff on UK goods I cancelled my regular order for Echo Falls red and ordered Blossom Hill instead.

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Well said!!! We really do.. I put up with a lot if *bleep* or go out of my way to please at my own loss too often, but when I blow I blow & then I'm just a firm 4k right off & No appeasing ne then 😅
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I agree, as a private seller if i sell something low value (say £3) and it disappears then i will refund and just take the loss.  Why should i waste another £1 on tracking.  As it is I have never had an RM item get lost yet.

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you should try Trivento Malbec!   I find that very soothing after a fraught day on e bay!

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I guess part of the nudging (or blatant 'shoving') into tracking can be attributed to the Royal Mail too.

 

Their cheapest tracked service for a letter is £2.70 when an untracked letter (up to 100g) is just 87p. Aside from the deliberate lack of weight bands how can a tracked letter cost more than 3 times as much as untracked?

 

But then their tracked small parcel service at £3.45 is lower than untracked, now £3.90. How can a tracked package possibly cost less to administer than an untracked one?

 

RM prices are completely ludicrous and their internal service subsidies are all over the place. 

Given what they've been doing maybe it's not a great surprise that Ebay decided to step in a grab a piece of the action?

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eBay will never admit that they have got this wrong (SD).

 

At the moment, they seem to have paused the rollout, and made it simpler for those NOT already on SD to continue listing using custom postage. I listed a few items on my private account last night, and I don't need to actively choose custom postage in any of them - it was the default setting, whereas, SD had been the default setting for a few weeks, although I could over-ride it then. 

 

The new "Deadline" of 20th May allows them time to make adjustments, if they so wish. Scrapping SD is a non-starter. It does actually work for a great many sellers and buyers. Besides ironing out some of the teething troubles, like combined postage, large letters, etc, I think eBay have one ace up their sleeve which would make SD much more attractive.

 

It's been widely reported that eBay will make an enormous amount of profit from SD, certainly well over a pound (nearer two) for every large letter sent, probably considerably more than that (over 50% on parcels). Although some price points are a little cheaper under SD, many are not, and there is a general feeling that this is far more about profit than service (some may argue that's how it should be, but there is a balance to be had)

 

What if eBay made SD optional BUT cancelled the fixed element of the Buyers Prevention Fee which buyers currently pay to any private seller, applying it only to those who did not use SD? That 72p wouldn't make much difference to eBay.

 

This would give sellers (certainly small private sellers) an incentive to use SD, and give buyers an incentive to buy from sellers who offer it.

 

This would have the bonus of reducing the grumbling about the BPF, as well as reducing end prices for those willing to use SD. It may be the incentive some buyers/sellers need.

 

At the moment we are only being told by eBay that SD is great. We are seeing little to demonstrate that it is.

 

Looking simply at prices, the prices aren't any lower than an average buyer could access himself, and he would often also choose a better service. That means eBay is retaining 100% of the massive amount of profit they are making with this RM/PO/Evri deal.

 

If they don't want to drop BPF, they certainly have plenty headroom to drop prices. As stated above, even on large letters, they're making well over a pound on every single package. As the price goes up, so does their profit.

 

Eliminating part of the BPF, and/or reducing SD prices across the board (not to "Giveaway" prices, just to something a little fairer to your buyers and sellers) would each go a long way to making SD much more palatable.

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But don't be fooled by a few concessions now.  Ebay has been trying to get Tracked Delivery on all sales for years.  It's tried persuasion, defects, fake metrics and fantasy DDs, now it's just using force to get private sellers to do what it wants.

 

Yes, they'll back-track to get this accepted in some form or other, until next time, then start with another series of small "adjustments" to push sellers in the direction they want them to go in.  

 

To them it's all two steps forward and one step back, getting control of sellers delivery is a victory for ebay.  They'll reduce their greed temporarily, knowing that they can up their take progressively if enough can be pushed into acceptance by a few concessions now.

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One thing you should consider when slating RM prices is that they HAVE to deliver to anywhere in the UK and to pay for all those posties, vans etc.

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Well the UK and Germany sales were flat 😳 🙄 😐  yes flat. 

 

But hey didn't ebay introduce the new changes for Germany and the UK where customers are charged for a service ebay already provide like seller protection and the new simple delivery charges 🙄 and someone also stepped down hhhmmm

I guess it's a good job ebay are buying there own shares so it doesn't look like investors are selling there stock 😉  honestly 

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No, I'm just saying that RM prices don't make sense. Either large letters cost more to deliver than small ones or not, either tracked services cost more to provide or they don't, etc. It feels almost as if they don't want people to use their service.

Some coherence or rationale to the costs of services would be an improvement.

 

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Normal 2nd class SM was trackable on Ebay for some time ( If the label had been bought via Ebay) as It had a unique ID and the delivery status would update. However you could not track its intermediate process . With unique ID anything is trackable and RM use it to valid stamps as to whether they are genuine and whether they have already been used.

 

As long as sender paid for a service with adequate compensation and proof of postage , that item was always covered . So if it got lost RM should compensate . So insisting it needs to trackable is a bit misleading if the item is adequately covered 

 

A flaw with current services it is only trackable to point of delivery not to the person.  Under SD do Ebay offer a signed for service ? . But if they don't if doesn't matter as its a problem for Ebay and the buyer .

 

RM have made normal 2nd and 1st parcels unattractive so they will probably go at some stage 

 

 

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I said exactly the same thing last week.. Insurance/Tracking not required
for items up to £20 value.. I use the old small Certificate of Posting forms
for 3 addresses or the larger ones for up to 25 addresses That I have the
template for saved on my computer and just print them off in batches
whenever. If anyone ones a copy of them of them let me know

RON,
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