NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[wiganyankeeron]

In 25 years I can count the items on one hand that have gone missing Then
the Post Office have reimbursed me No problem. It was up to £35. value, but
over the years they have brought the compensation down to £20.

RON,

[punzel9072]

I use the old small Certificate of Posting forms for 3 addresses or the larger ones for up to 25 addresses.

I didn't realise that I could use the old small Certificate of Posting forms as my local sub-post office refuses to accept them. I have a number of pads of them so maybe will start using them again rather than print off an A4 sheet every time.

[wiganyankeeron]

As I have said previously I get FREE POSTAGE by Royal Mail.. Well my
friend's company pays, but at very reduced rates. Any small letter sized
mail I do send. I use my 'hoard' of the old non definitive stamps i.e.
Christmas or the various Commemorative type stamps. Which are still valid.
I think it's absolutely disgraceful that Ebay knew, and was advertised on
various Money Saving Programmes To save money. Buy any Postage stamps,
prior to the increase in the cost of stamps in early April A lot of regular
sellers did exactly this and now have been left with them on their hands to
get rid of in dribs and drabs..
I have a couple of relatives and a few friend who work for Royal Mail, and
if it costs me a little more to use R.M. I will do. It all helps to keep
them in a job.

RON,

[crn303]

Hello Ron … Similar to your experience, I have had and continue to receive very good service using Royal Mail.

I will continue to use Royal Mail as long as it is possible and have no intention of supporting any other delivery service.

In my daily travels, I always despair when spotting a package / parcel left outside of a home for all to see.

Because the majority of my items are suitable, I personally find Royal Mail Large Letter an ideal solution. I have no need of SD and will not use it.

I fully accept that there are other sellers who require Parcel dispatch and will have to use SD and I wish you well moving forward.

[wiganyankeeron]

I can print 4 off, of the small certificates on 1 A4 sheet Yes I did have
a few quizzical looks when I first used them at "new" P.O.s but once I
explained it's just a Proof of acceptance by the P.O. they are O.K. with it.
It saves them having to print out a receipt, which would involve them
entering the destination address into their "machine" and printing me out a
receipt.

RON,

[wiganyankeeron]

A few weeks ago I was driving along one of the main roads out of Wigan which
had terraced house either side. The house front doors opened directly onto
the pavement. No gardens only a few yards of pavement before the main road.
I saw three house with parcels just left outside the doors on the pavement.
The area is full of 'Ner Do Wells' I bet they weren't there when the owners
came home..

RON,

[forestfeline62]

We bought some false tracking labels to stick on our parcels and so far so good ,probably make people think when the item arrives ,they aren't sure what the label is as it looks like a tracking code 

[aymanalvi]

Nothing to do with a job, its about control. Ebay say jump you jump.

[keith9677]

i will also stop using the company its stupid to force people to use a system that is more expensive and i think even possibly illegal under monopoly laws 

[dave_1815]

I too got ripped off by eBay's simple delivery. 

I sold an item for £40 with free delivery. Thinking that the delivery would be no more than £5, but it actually cost me £18 to deliver with the new system. 

I am never selling on eBay again. 

[lucy_farmer]

'What if eBay made SD optional BUT cancelled the fixed element of the Buyers Prevention Fee which buyers currently pay to any private seller, applying it only to those who did not use SD? That 72p wouldn't make much difference to eBay.

This would give sellers (certainly small private sellers) an incentive to use SD, and give buyers an incentive to buy from sellers who offer it.'

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Interesting idea, and I wouldn't put it past them!

But it makes me wonder how on earth would they 'spin' the Buyers Prevention  Fee (great gag there vinyl, by the way !😂) in this case?

All those 'Wonderful' and 'New' things that buyers now get with the enforced but 'fantastic' BPF, would have to be seen as not really important after all......

[theelench]

I agree SD is all about ebay getting control of delivery options and forcing sellers to use ebay's chosen few.  But it is also about the jobs.

While we have RM that delivers everywhere for the same price, does that to a better standard (mostly) than any other courier and offers full-time employment rather than piece-work exploitation, that sets some sort of bench-mark to the rest.

SD will help undermine a good many small sub-post offices, flooding them with "marketplace" post that they make very little from.  That can only lead to further closures with ebay ready to fill the gap increasingly by making evri the only viable alternative if there are no post offices left to go to.

[gmij1961]

was that something large or heavy as  £18 sounds like a postal rate outside of Ebay's  SD  in the 1st place 

useful to know more details 

[punzel9072]

SD will help undermine a good many small sub-post offices, flooding them with "marketplace" post that they make very little from.

Indeed, over the last month I have never had to queue in my local sub-post office other than one person being served. Previously there were often large queues with some people posting a good number of eBay items. Clearly they have forced people to use the casual service by Evri - I never never would.

[theelench]

To add to the above:

These latest initiatives of ebay shows them for what they are  --  thieves.

They've robbed sellers by holding their money

They've robbed buyers by inflating their delivery costs.

They've robbed post offices by depriving them of income while expecting them to process ebay mail.

Way to go ebay.  NOTHING matters except YOUR BOTTOM LINE.

[theelench]

About a thousand posts ago we were being urged to "keep things factual" and not think of scenarios which were speculative "worst case scenarios".  

So what if ebay might change a couple of things into a "best case scenario" ?  There's one thing you can guarantee with ebay and that is  --  IF ebay makes a few concessions now, to get the uproar to go away, they'll start rolling those concessions back at the earliest opportunity.

Don't fall for it.

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"So what if ebay might change a couple of things into a "best case scenario" ?"

They could take a leaf out of the Trumpian playbook, as in tell everyone that you're going to impose 50% tariffs, then scale it back to 10% and everybody's relieved at getting such a good deal, even though there were zero tariffs before.  It's a well-recognised strategy.   So ebay *could* scale back SD to, say, exempting more sizes/weights at the lower end, adding more carriers and allowing combined orders, in the expectation that we'd all be very grateful, irrespective of the fact that it's still less than the freedom we used to have before SD was introduced.

[goodibags]

Or just admit SD will have to remain OPTIONAL. To allow for all those cases where

(a) package size and weight are unknowable or

(b) the item is not worth sending with tracked postage or

(c) the seller is unable to or does not want to use all carriers or

(d) more than one item has been purchased or

(e) any of the other various reasons already described in this thread to explain why SD simply won't work in all cases.

Likewise, Trump could avoid rolling back tomorrow on all the idiot he said today just by keeping his mouth shut for a few hours. Wonder if he'll ever try it?  😁

[rugbyguy1960]

I rarely get to the point when I need to have a rant but, what is it about U S companies that makes them think that trying to control everything is a common sense option.

Google got into trouble regarding how things appeared in searches, and now ebay are trying to control everything by making things compulsory. 

Holding money, BPF which is a farce, SD which should be a option and never  be compulsory. And on top of all that, sellers get advised to pay to promote their listings. It's all just a way to squeeze as much as they can.

Hopefully because common sense is used here by users, they will find the UK a tough nut to crack.

People will only be pushed so far before they say enough is enough.

[rugbyguy1960]

All there is needed are 2 concessions and 1 change that ebay would benefit from.

1. Would be to make SD optional instead of compulsory.

2. Would be to make BPF optional for buyers who want that protection.

3. Would be to reintroduce seller fees which are transparent for sellers.

If they truly have faith in decisions that they make then those 3 changes would let the sites users show what they believed the best options were.