NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[akemp1]

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@theelench wrote:
Would you be so calm and un-concerned if ebay announced that, as at least some of the problems had been sorted, from next Monday ebay would start migrating business sellers to SD ?  So you too could take advantage of this great opportunity to simplify your delivery arrangements.

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On the Married2Reselling youtube channel their business seller account is occasionally getting provided with SD labels so it looks like ebay have occasionally been accidentally updating business seller listings with the SD virus.

A few days ago I have found SD lurking on a few of my Collection Only listings and I'm baffled how it got there as I am 90% sure I didn't make a mistake when listing. The whole point of setting them Collection Only is because IMHO they are impractical to post and if ebay disagree with that I don't have the right packaging anyway. I've written Collection Only all over the item title and description so thankfully no one tried to buy them. Although that hasn't stopped people in the past thinking they were freepost...

[theelench]

Having been sent a label in error, did they use it ?

If SD is such a wonderful thing are they hoping for more 'accidents'  to take advantage of ?

[vinylscot]

As long as the problems with combined postage were resolved satisfactorily, I wouldn't be at all concerned about moving onto SD. I appreciate that's because it suits my business - almost all my packages are the same size - small parcels, and I live quite close to a post office (which I would prefer to use) and a couple of Evri drop-off points.

I would possibly need to tweak my  prices a little, as I do allow a few pence in the shipping cost to provide packaging, but that's no biggie.

And eBay would need to introduce something to allow sellers to download labels in bulk, to make the admin side of things a little easier, as I don't want to be downloading a dozen labels a day individually, but I'm sure they would do that, before putting businesses onto SD.

I'm perfectly happy running my postage the way I am at the moment, but if I had to change, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

As I've mentioned before, the vast majority of posters are posting about how bad things could be, assuming worst case scenarios. Very few are posting about actual problems they have experienced. I appreciate not everyone is on SD yet, but if there were any significant problems, I'm sure far more would have found their way onto these boards.

I'll agree the whole thing has been done with eBay's usual level of total incompetence, but, nonetheless, there is a fair amount of tin-foil-hattery going on here. 

[jreg-fuchsias]

I suspect many small businesses would happily swap having to paying ebay business listing, shop ,final value, overseas buyer fees for simple delivery + buyers fees.  Which is probably why no-one on here suggests registering as a business as a work around to avoid simple delivery.

[sdrummond-uk]

I have been reading this thread from the beginning and like everyone else I don't like the idea of not being able to choose the right postage for my parcels.

But I don't want to start again on another platform so I will just have to get on with it.

So here is my take on what's happened  with it so far.

I don't seem to be switched over to SD yet but I have changed some of my listing over to it myself most of the time the weights were correct so left them as it was, changed if had to. Recommended choice of letter or parcel was always correct.

Only have RM ticked.

The price for 1kg and 2kg parcels is the same £3.44 and it is for a medium size parcel which is quite a big size. So my items that were for a medium size it is now cheaper.

Sold three items now with the SD on. 1 of these was changed from 1kg to 2kg weight.

Go to print label and it comes up with the size and weight picked on the listing and tells me its by RM that's it.

When label printed it doesn't show any weight or size on the label only paid by RM and through Ebay SD.

Took to the post office was asked to put it on the scales (I know them by first name bases so asked a few questions) why does it have to be put on the scales if its prepaid? was told just so they can put the weight on the system nothing else.

Does the label show you what i've paid for when you scan it ? No as long as its less than 20kg and no bigger than 61cm x 46cm x 46cm (medium parcel size) then they just weigh scan and put in bag and give you the COP receipt.

Have you had any communication about Ebay SD parcels ? No but we have about Marketplace seller labeled parcels which is Ebay and we are just to accept them as long as the above is ok.

They were all parcels but I would assume it would be the same with the letters.

I'm hoping this helps a few understand what's going on with it as it is all a bit confusing.

[akemp1]

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@theelench wrote:

Having been sent a label in error, did they use it ?

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No they bought their own label and chased ebay customer services to refund them the cost.

[parsley2003]

Yes it sounds fine for parcels if you can print the label which i can and then book delivery but there is still the problem combining postage for multiple items purchased by the same seller so i still can't be happy with it unless that problem is sorted

[akemp1]

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@sdrummond-uk wrote:

Only have RM ticked.

The price for 1kg and 2kg parcels is the same £3.44 and it is for a medium size parcel which is quite a big size. So my items that were for a medium size it is now cheaper.

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Has something changed as RM-Only was £3.74 for 1KG and £4.27 for 2KG parcels?

For items sold between £0-100

Item weight & size	Both carriers selected	EVRi only	Royal Mail only
750g large letter	£2.70	£2.94	£2.73
0-1kg parcel	£2.94	£2.97	£3.74
1-2kg parcel	£3.71	£4.06	£4.27
2-10kg parcel	£5.36	£5.89	£6.65
10-15kg parcel	£7.19	£7.26	£10.55
15-20kg parcel	£10.55		£10.66

I am also set to RM-Only and just tried changing one my my items to 2KG SD parcel and it's showing £2.87 (presumably plus VAT to be £3.44 not that it says that on my view of the listing).

Have they repriced and perhaps dropped the penalty for choosing RM-Only? If so that's a start.

[sdrummond-uk]

That price list was put up when they were first talking about SD coming in it changed when the prices changed for RM wasn't it around the 7th April. 

It now shows as this

For items sold between £0-100

Item weight & size	Both couriers selected	EVRi only	Royal Mail only
750g large letter	£2.70	£2.94	£2.73
0-1kg parcel	£2.94	£2.97	£3.44
1-2kg parcel	£3.44	£4.06	£3.44
2-10kg parcel	£5.36	£5.64	£6.65
10-15kg parcel	£7.19	£7.26	£10.55
15-20kg parcel	£10.55		£10.66

For items sold above £100

I still don't have a choice to pick the 2- 10 bracket goes straight from up to 2kg then up to 15kg but I think Marco said that will come in when you have been fully changed over to SD. That I will wait and see. 

Large Letter is up to 1kg and £2.74

[edwardian-dreams]

Pretty basic thing to have sorted out before launching it all 

no excuse imo

[sdrummond-uk]

Not been lucky enough to sell a few items to same customer yet. So don't know how true this is but I've read it as 

If buyer puts all items into their basket (and you have combined postage ticked on your preferences) and then pays for all in one go then only one postage label is produced. Then can be packed up in one parcel.

If done as it was just click on say BIN and then another one  and another then you would ask seller for an invoice. This won't work they have to be added to their basket.

But that is a guess

[sawjuggler]

There is a very probable flaw in SD calculations and that is if the estimated weight is exceeded by actual weight.

When parcels are going by RM airfreight to the distance locations, the freight manifest has to be very accurate for obvious reasons.

The give and take in AI miscalculation will go straight out the window 

[vinylscot]

Silly scaremongering. They certainly don't go on declared weight when preparing manifests for loading freight onto planes.

All freight would be weighed before being loaded.

Also, as has been covered many many times before, it's based on averages, so the chances of a sizable batch being overweight are pretty close to zero.

[ja142868]

Considering that everything is barcode orientated, if that information is incorrect that will surely magnify errors down the line.

[parsley2003]

The bot will allow something off but not the true discount if you can send several things for the one postage. We cannot invoice anybody it's been disabled and i can't see it coming back

[knightinarmour]

“I think of all the thousands of comments just on this thread I remember about six who had no qualms and they were because they were below some magic number of grams and sold for less than £10, so exempt.  They were only happy because they were exempt, not because they thought SD was a good idea.”

well, I’ve said a couple of times I’m happy with SD and it works fine. I sell things normally £10 or thereabouts. 

im happy because SD is cheaper than normal Evri, still tracked and you get your money quicker….

[gmij1961]

"Silly scaremongering. They certainly don't go on declared weight when preparing manifests for loading freight onto planes."

Yet another laughable  comment  🙂 

I think you might  find in the real world that if you mis-declare weight  in this context then you would probably face a significant surcharge from the carrier regardless on whatever their law of averages my be !

But then this is a reason why the SD weight guessing app should really work  properly as , weight, size , mass , gravity etc are  quite important  concepts  when shipping any item .

There is no technical reason why the SD weight guessing app can not factor in the reality of dimensions and weight  and that really undermines the credibility of SD and Ebay  as result , regardless of what you think ! 

[ja142868]

Hes an instant expert........ just add subject 🤣

[vinylscot]

I am no "expert", but I have many years of relevant experience, and a great deal more common sense than many of the posters here. Many of you are simply looking for an angle to attack eBay, and the attempts to do so are becoming sillier and sillier.

Credit eBay with a little common sense too. Do you really think some random nobody on a chat board is going to come up with something they haven't considered?

I'll repeat that eBay have not dealt with either the implementation of SD or with the communication around it. That's putting it mildly. But please, stop inventing fantasy worst-case scenarios just so you can have a pop at them.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

i have never weighed my items because i have always been able to know what category they will fall into.  My only changes are needed when i have over/underestimated the size of mail bag they will fit into and i either suck up the loss or refund the difference.  I actually like going into my local post office and just passing the parcel over the counter, pretty straight forward operation - no printer or smart phone needed.  I do have a printer which has been known to go wrong and have no intention of getting a smart phone.  Hate EVRI like poison and will never ever use them or buy from anyone that does.  Happy to get things from other couriers, just not them.