NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[akemp1]

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@edwardian-dreams wrote:

A lot  of your items will be able to be sent same old way if they’re under 100g and £10 and fit into a letter or padded envelope (though seems jury’s out on the latter though it must be in my mind ok seeing as they’ve included dvds and ornaments!)

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Thanks I see there's some debate what ebay might be doing with large letter rate. 100g is too limiting as once packed a DVD or computer game can easily exceed that especially if there are 2 discs, a manual, etc.  My view is that they should remove all large letter weights from SD as RM already offer everyone great value for money and cover for up to £20 and usually do delivery confirmation if bought online. Around half the stuff I sell goes large letter in PIP boxes.

But then I think RM also offer great value with tracked48. Sure Evri is cheaper but they exploit their workers, treat the item equally poorly, dump the items in full view (no time to find a safe place) and seem to have more lost or damaged in my experience. RM is worth paying that bit more especially as tracked48 comes with £150 compensation as standard. Also it saves me petrol as I don't have to go to multiple dropoffs.

Ebay want to charge premium fees like Waitrose while using cheap Evri horse meat in the meals.

[ja142868]

That's no different from last week's list

[edwardian-dreams]

So ? What are you trying to say 

[honeymonster007]

Taken off the link you shared

Note. Royal Mail has advised post offices to accept all Simple Delivery packages, as long as the parcel remains within the maximum weight and dimensions. These are 20kg and 61cm x 46cm x 46cm. 

Guess that means if you use ebays recommend postage and its under weight or size your parcels going to be rejected.

[forestfeline62]

If you go on the royal mail site for prohibited and restricted items ,there is quite a list there but they also tell you how to send items like the packaging ,but there are many things you can send with RM that ebay say you  can't. some time ago I had an old  carved wooden fish with metal cutlery in it and  ebay AI   rejected  it and took  it off .So then I took plenty of pictures of it so buyers could see what it was inside and out but I never mentioned there was a knife and fork in the description and it sold  so sometimes pictures speak a 1000 words .Buyers often don't read descriptions so pictures often sell the item .

[cabinet-of-curiosities]

I’ve just opened a platinum account on e-b-i-d .co.uk they are absolutely fantastic once my lot sells on eBay I’ll be closing my account 

[jma2815]

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@lamulady2 wrote:
I am obviously losing the plot here. I have had around 200 posts on this subject & some,  like this one, are bothering me. Why are you "pulling" items? Have I missed out something? I am now going to check out some of the ones that I have sent direct to see if I have been charged THEIR postage as well. I am not always...in fact rarely... checking something like that Surely,  if no label has been bought??????

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Yesterday you said that you will continue to send direct with Royal Mail after the changes. It doesn’t look to me as if your listings have SD on them at the moment. 

When your listings are changed over to Simple Delivery the BUYER will be buying the label from eBay and you will not be charged for it. They will send you the label and a QR code with the order and I think if you can, it would be best to use it. 

You can still just use Royal Mail but you have to go into your ‘settings’ and turn off Evri as a courier or eBay will almost certainly start sending you Evri labels. Have you done this?

Yesterday you also said that you were refunding the BPF and would do the same with postage but that isn’t the way to handle these changes. 

[edwardian-dreams]

No

it means the post office has been told by Royal Mail they must accept all eBay parcels 

is the way I read it 

ebay will sort it out apparently if it’s wrong as long as you used their “recommended weight”

but

how is the post office to know if you used ebays recommended weight or not 

anyway

royalmail and the  post office are two different companies

one is totally private and the other government part owned ?

so how do Royal Mail get to “advise” the post office what to do unless they’ve given assurances re any reason they might reject parcels 

above my pay grade I’m afraid 

[technthread]

I’ve just spent a bit of time reading their forums and doing item searches.

I hope it goes well for you, undoubtedly a few with a following do get sales, I just have a few nagging doubts. I don’t mind wasting £70 on a premium membership if nothing sells but I don’t want to waste hours of time and be disappointed. 

[akemp1]

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@technthread wrote:

I don’t mind wasting £70 on a premium membership if nothing sells but I don’t want to waste hours of time and be disappointed. 

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The way the pricing works at that place actually discourages me from signing up as it would start the clock on handing over the £70 before really being able to try out selling with enough features to give it a go. I can see how that place might work for the type of stuff cabinet-of-curiosities has listed as there already seems to be an established buyer and seller community for those categories.

For me I decided to go with the place ebay are badly copying as it was a better category match for the stuff that I tend to have to buy and sell although I will still end up having some stuff to sell on ebay as last resort where there are no categories or audience there. I am now selling more items per listings per week there than I am here. I didn't even have an account there when mandatory SD was announced. I've even sold stuff at slightly higher prices than I had stagnating here with no views.

[technthread]

Same here.

I’m sceptical, once the £70 is handed over why push platinum sellers’ listings? If anything, the ones paying a 2% fee on sales each time are more of a cash cow to be pushed. I know I’m being negative, I just feel that for all its flaws the aim is to make sales and eBay is still (a very flawed) King. 

[akemp1]

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@technthread wrote:

I know I’m being negative, I just feel that for all its flaws the aim is to make sales and eBay is still (a very flawed) King. 

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There's no arguing ebay are the dominant second hand online marketplace (which is why I reported the mandatory ebay postage to the CMA weeks ago as potential bundling abuse) but they are gradually losing it in some categories like stamps, clothing, music, etc to other places.

Recent changes will only accelerate ebay's decline and growth of the other places so is kinda healthy for long term competition. It's certainly taught me to no longer have 'a goto' marketplace and play the field however convenient that was.

I know loads of young people for who ebay does not resonate for their generation they are generally using the other place I joined. Ebay is increasingly unattractive and they way they talk down to everyone is unbelievably poor so it's not going to go well for them if they don't repent and change for the better.

They could start by admitting they got this year very wrong and would figure out how to make it right.

That's what the buyers and sellers need to hear - ebay with a human voice.

Not all this oppressive policy corporate technocrat doublespeak.

[gmij1961]

If was going to sell the items Ebay highlight on their  Advert  than I definitely wouldn't be selling them on Ebay now  . 

I don't very often sell stuff outside my main field but  I know what platform I would give  a try  now if I was  .  Even though with SD I know I can send a Tiger lamp with shade  attached and it  could go small packets .

I am surprised Ebay don't use Tiger Lamp as an example on there SD postage boxes as to what you can fit in a 61x46x46 package . 

[technthread]

I agree with that in principle but then I do see a lot of people saying we hate simple delivery and BPF so we’re going to Vinted, but it’s the same setup there just with more postage options and less invasive.

Younger people do see eBay as ancient yeah. I know a few people my age 30’s/40’s who did eBay before me and say it is too complicated now. They aren’t stupid, it’s actually easy for them but they have it in their head that it is a hassle and a thing they used to do but not anymore. 

[akemp1]

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@technthread wrote:

but it’s the same setup there just with more postage options and less invasive.

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Like you I thought the setup was the same until I tried it. The buyer tax tends to be much lower there and if you order a few items from the same seller (a 'bundle' in their language) then the fixed element of buyer tax is per order not per item and the postage automatically combines and sellers can set automatic bundle % discounts. Also they are completely transparent on the choice of carrier rather than trying to hide it behind 'standard' and 'express' options. As a seller you can specify those carriers you will use and the buyer can pick from your list. There are no penalties in the pricing for expressing a preference like there are here. Also the postage prices are low enough you don't feel there is a markup like there is with SD so it feels like you are paying the correct RM price if you choose RM, etc.

That's why what ebay are doing is such a lame imitation.

[forestfeline62]

My partner has done the same and had a sale on the first day ,I have given him some of my things that are not on ebay to sell for me and I have 3 items with bids on .So I think e.b.i.d is picking up momentum .

[edwardian-dreams]

It’s time consuming and younger people have shorter attention spans and if it’s not worth it they click away

why take 3 minutes or more with all the requirements (sometimes ridiculous) ebay demand to list something with no guarantee that you will get more views watchers or buyers over say zero or one when it takes 1 minute to list elsewhere where you will get a lot of views watchers and sales

no brainer 

eBay may be allegedly the largest marketplace  but let’s see it in practice ie in results 

[wellingnorth]

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@technthread wrote:

I agree with that in principle but then I do see a lot of people saying we hate simple delivery and BPF so we’re going to Vinted, but it’s the same setup there just with more postage options and less invasive.

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This is true, over there the implementation of the buyer fee and the delivery options are a lot clearer - you can see the makeup of the price with the fees you're paying at each stage and you can see which specific couriers are available.

But also you seem to able to buy most things with inPost store to store for £2.29 - I think if comparable rates were available with Simple Delivery ebay might have more sellers actually wanting to use it!

[technthread]

That’s true to be fair. I hadn’t thought about the intricacies of it.

V is something I use occasionally now as I have a Pro account and that means waiting nearly 3 weeks for the funds on a sale. The buying side is very good actually and they made it better by allowing bundles by not making the seller confirm a parcel size. I lost a few good buys as the seller didn’t respond in time under the old system. It also seems like buyers are more likely to add impulse buys in to a bundle than on here.  

[cz7373]

£70 fee = 0% fee but no thumbnail, 2% fee have a thumbnail on the listing. Both options still let you have pictures on the "Items" own page. No fee taken off of the postage. Have up to 5 "Stores".