Ebay just rip u off when it's their fault

Really annoyed about this.

 

Customer opened an INAD request. It said "the customer will return this to you by the 22nd" so obv i'm waiting for the return as requested. With all the fees and promo fees, the £27.99 is eaten up so all I owe is £11 refund. Next thing I get "the customer has escalated this to ebay". What? it told me I was to wait for my item to be returned. Screw this, i just got in touch with ebay and told them to refund. I got charged the full £27.99. I asked them why??? i refunded before ebay decided on the outcome, and i was told to wait for my item back.

 

Ebay as always just shrugged their shoulders with "no option to refund fees as we had to escalate it". IT WAS YOUR FAULT!!!!!

 

Grrrrrr

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as always, ebay steals from u right in front of u and no regulator even noticed....

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My husband sold an old camera about a month ago.  The buyer complained it was damaged and asked for a return.  Husband agreed and sent a label.  Ebay then refunded the customer and told them to keep the camera.  They took the money from his account.  He immediately contacted eBay who insisted it was him who did the refund.  The customer showed husband an email from eBay saying they had refunded and he could keep the item.  Ebay said they didn't send that.  He's been phoning about it off and on for 29 days - in yesterday's call they told him the case hadn't been decided yet but it would time out today!  The customer initially said he was keeping the camera, then when told the refund had been taken from my husband they said they'd return it.  Of course they didn't.  Ebay were unable to explain how come husband had sent a label if he didn't want the camera back.  He's currently out for both camera and payment of £140, eBay have consistently lied their way through every call.  Never mind buyer beware, round these parts it's seller beware!  

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@caddyscane wrote:

With all the fees and promo fees, the £27.99 is eaten up so all I owe is £11 refund.

 


In any return case the refund you owe is whatever the buyer paid (including postage). eBay's fees are not deducted from that amount.

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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@anne.craig wrote:

in yesterday's call they told him the case hadn't been decided yet but it would time out today!  


Is the case still open or does it state "this case/request is now closed"?

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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He's currently screaming down the phone at them - I'm guessing it's not going well.  They keep insisting he bought a return label then refunded the customer with no return required, nothing is budging them from that.  It's scary how you're left at their mercy.

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@anne.craig wrote:

He's currently screaming down the phone at them - I'm guessing it's not going well.  They keep insisting he bought a return label then refunded the customer with no return required, nothing is budging them from that.  It's scary how you're left at their mercy.


It sounds like he needs to take the matter up with the Financial Ombudsman Service but he won't be able to do that until the case is closed, an appeal sent and a final response obtained. 

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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If you need to take them to the small claims court you can do this on the governments website

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

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@w79805 wrote:

If you need to take them to the small claims court you can do this on the governments website

Why would someone pay to make a small claim against a regulated financial institution (like eBay) when there is an ombudsman available to deal with complaints for free? 

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It is an option if that doesn't work out for them.

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Financial ombudsman service - this is an extract from a previously published judgement of theirs:  

 

"Buyer disputes
I understand Mr M is unhappy about the decision to refund a buyer for several transactions
through eBay’s money back guarantee policy. Mr M says the buyer’s claims were fraudulent
and he hasn’t been given the opportunity to appeal. However, eBay’s money back guarantee
is a service offered by eBay UK as a marketplace, rather than eBay Commerce. This means
that I can’t consider the fairness of this decision, or the concerns Mr M has raised about not
being able to appeal against it.
However, I can consider the actions of eBay Commerce in providing the payment service to
Mr M. eBay’s payments terms of use sets out what happens if a buyer successfully files a
claim under the eBay Money Back Guarantee. It says the eBay company offering the eBay
Buyer Protection Program (“eMBG Service Provider”) will reimburse the buyer the amount
owed on the seller’s behalf. And the seller is required to reimburse the eMBG Service
Provider for any such amounts.
In agreeing to eBay’s payment terms of use, Mr M gave it authority to collect “owed
amounts” by various means including recouping from his linked financial account. So, I don’t
think it was unfair for eBay to have debited funds from Mr M’s bank account when there
wasn’t sufficient money in his eBay account to cover refunds to the buyers. "

 

So no-one is covered under that with Managed Payments.

 

 

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@anne.craig wrote:

 

So no-one is covered under that with Managed Payments.

 


Managed Payments - which are governed by the Payments Terms of Use - is the only element of eBay's services the ombudsman has jurisdiction over. Decisions are made on a case-by-case basis so you can't rely on a single ombudsman's decision to judge how a separate complaint will be handled.

Mr. M's complaint was not actually about the MBG cases and the money he lost; it was about the subsequent (selling) restriction, associated payout hold and account suspension that resulted. There are a few issues with Mr. M's story, the chief one being his claim he was given no means to appeal eBay's decision(s). Any time eBay closes a Money Back Guarantee case the "losing" party has a link to appeal the decision so that element of his story doesn't add up. Anyway, the ombudsman's decision was based on the letter of the PToU.

 

However, it is an interesting case because the PToUs specifically reference the relevant User Agreement and MBG policy in Article 7 where reimbursements are concerned so I don't see how they can't be viewed as an extension of the PToU.

Anyway; does your husband's case show as being closed and what does the timeline show?      

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