Posting to n.ireland

[donmarty11]

Hi can anyone explain to me why some sellers in the U.K. will not post to N.Ireland ? 

[tobiasd4]

Probably because carriers charge extra to NI.

RM is same cost all over UK.

[donmarty11]

I get that however I looked up the protocol. Goods travelling to N.Ireland are treating as going to the E.U. so they need to fill out the relevant paper work . However the sellers do post to the E.U. So it’s the same paper work therefore no reason not too post to N.Ireland . Also the extra cost for postage will be on me the buyer therefore at no extra cost to the seller . 

[donmarty11]

Also N.Ireland is a part of the U.k. so again no reason not too

[jckl1957]

Another reason may be the new regulations.   The Windsor Framework came into effect on May 1st and may put sellers off sending to NI as there is an extra layer of paperwork to complete.

[donmarty11]

Hi having just read the rules to posting to n.ireland there is no paperwork from a business to a consumer its an online form to state what the goods are with no customs declaration needed . The only reason could be because they can't be bothered to look up the rules or clear discrimination . As no one seems to be able to explain(including the seller themselves having not replied multiple times) I have decided to contact the equality commisioner for N.Ireland to look into the issue as it is geographical discrimination 😀

[jckl1957]

I would say that completing an online form is 'paperwork'.   If a UK seller posts an item to, for example, Norwich, they don't have to complete such a form.

I know it is a quick and easy admin. task, but it is another element of work/bother that may put private sellers off posting to NI.

That, coupled with the fact that most couriers, excludimg Royal Mail, will charge more to send to NI is a deterrent for sellers.

It is not discrimination; it is seller choice.  Nobody can force sellers to sell and post to specific areas if they don't want to.

[donmarty11]

Hi just a quick update. The equality comission states that if a provider is treating u different from others : example refuses to or deliberately fails to deliver a service.  😀 game on .

Power to the people 

[jckl1957]

Even with that information, you will not be able to force specific sellers to sell to you - unless you plan to take them to court?

Personally, I don't post to ROI after a stressful and frustrating issue with AnPost a couple of years ago.

That is not discrimination - it is making my life easier.

[donmarty11]

Yes the plan is possibly to take them to court. I believe it is discrimination as they are treating me different to other persons from the UK and Ireland . If I decide to do this it will force people to post to N.ireland which will be a victory for all of the north 😜

[jckl1957]

You plan to take individual sellers to court?

Really?
Is that every time you try to buy something and the seller says, 'Sorry. I don't post to NI?

I hope you have extremely deep pockets.

[donmarty11]

Firstly it is a seller with a business name . Secondly because the sellers won't send to N.ireland but send it to the E.U. as well as the rest of the uk that is discrimination. I believe that if I was to win against one then I will be able to get the law changed that will make sellers individual or business unable to discriminate against people from N.ireland.Thirdly it does not cost anything to bring a case to a county court and even if there was the person whom the decision goes against would be footing the bill. If a business refuses to sell to an individual on discriminatory grounds they should not be in business. They could just pass the extra cost on to the customer although we do have royal mail here in case u didn't know and the cost is the same for all of the U.K. including N.IrelandLastly do you not think lots of people from N.Ireland have the same problem even though there is 'no boarder in the Irish sea' so of someone decides to stand up against this there will be a lot of support as well as media interest.

[tobiasd4]

TBH.  I don't think you will get anywhere. 

Lots of sellers on ebay and other Internet sites will only post to UK due to not understanding customs forms or issues with international postage. 

I know NI is part of UK, but no one can make seller post items to you.

If you complain to ebay, they will just sort refund, not compel seller to post.