22-04-2025 12:33 PM
Lots of upset about this so here is my summary of the key points and why I am considering ending 24 years of selling on Ebay:
1) Ebay is losing customers to Vinted and other market place sellers and seems to be copying Vinted policies such as Free Listing and Buyer Protection Fees in a desperate hope that this will reverse the trend. I don't think it will work as it has not been thought through very well
2) Ebay says, "We've made it free to sell for private sellers. To support this change, we charge a buyer fee to cover Buyer Protection services and help ensure a trusted experience when purchasing items from private sellers. For listings by business sellers, Buyer Protection is added at no extra cost." So this is a basically an admission that the BPF is purely to replace Seller Fees in order promote "Selling is free on Ebay" and is really nothing to do with providing significant extra buyer protection.
3) Most private sellers would prefer a listing fee because they now have to reduce the selling price to make the sale. It has the same impact as a fee except that is is much worse for low value items (up to 25% extra)
4) In the case of any price negotiations prior to purchase, having different purchase and listing prices is confusing to say the least. I already lost sales because of the confusion about what the price actually was.
5) Sellers now have to wait much longer for payouts and have to pay extra for tracking or face waiting an extra 14 days if the buyer does not confirm delivery. This feels very punitive to all sellers.
6) Buyers don't understand why there is a fee added to an identical item just because the seller happens to be private not a business. To a buyer this just seems very arbitrary
7 Buyers are already protected by the law and their credit card company anyway, so most see it a a rip-off and a rather arrogant and insulting pretence that some valuable serviced is being provided.
22-04-2025 1:51 PM
"So this is a basically an admission that the BPF is purely to replace Seller Fees...and is really nothing to do with providing significant extra buyer protection."
Of course it is. Vinteds payment model won't actually be for buyer protection in the main. It'll be to pay for everything involved in keeping a global ecommerce website running, safe and secure. Same as ebays.
Frankly - if they had referred to it as a 'Transaction Fee' as ticketmaster do (and this fee on Ticketmaster pays for everything again, to keep their platform functioning) I don't think there would have been half the issues in understanding what it actually is.
You'd still have the arguments over having it in the first place vs a seller fee, but I think it would be better understood that it doesn't offer buyer protection as most see it (ie getting a refund).
I do think seller fees would be preferable, just not going back to the fee discount weekends for private sellers as they did in the past.
22-04-2025 2:10 PM
@rogerday wrote:7 Buyers are already protected by the law and their credit card company anyway, so most see it a a rip-off and a rather arrogant and insulting pretence that some valuable serviced is being provided.
Buyers actually have very few statutory rights when purchasing from private sellers.