09-08-2016 1:21 PM
I am finding that it is now impossible to filter the loation of the products that I want to buy
I click on the "UK only" filter but then I have to go through 1000s of listings that are located in China but claim to be in the UK.
This is making for a very bad buying experience and is putting me off even trying to find products on this site.
Am I wasting my time complaing to the site administrator or should I just shop elsewhere?
06-06-2019 7:49 PM
06-06-2019 7:53 PM
totally agree. Everything seems to be made in china nowadays but as least with high street stores the sizing is better. the trouble with GB is that there is so little manufacturing of anything nowadays. We had a great steel industry and what happened to that? We were the foremost for cloth and wool but that has all gone. Bring back manufacturing to UK
07-06-2019 7:47 AM
Too late I fear. Most of the UK manufacturing has been sold off by the government with vested interests and their mates in foreign countrys.
Do you know - the National Grid, the system that controls your country's energy distribution, is 75% foreign owned?
Also, Telehouse1 and Telehouse2 which are data centres that handle over 60% of the UK and EU internet traffic including financial data - stands on land at Canary Wharf owned by Saudi Arabia?
All this sovereignty and taking back control **bleep** is meaningless.
That ship saild a long long time ago.
We truly are Little Britain.
08-06-2019 12:58 PM
I note a trend that Chinese sellers now have started placing Union flags and Royal Mail logos on their listings. Another buyer beware is some Chinese sellers are registered as private sellers, which means their true business address is not immediately shown. Even though they clearly state they are not liable for import duties!
[ In this context, I might consider bringing to the attention of ebay's senior directorship the EU directive 2005/29/EC concerning unfair business to consumer commercial practices and, the UK's consumer protection from unfair trading regulations. Or not. ]
10-07-2019 7:25 AM
There appears to be no way to get ebay action if sellers lists as in UK then ships from China taking weeks instead of promised days. The immediate clue is shipping details show "Delivery Information Received" for days. When chased turns out to be in hands of "third party" which is clearly "on the way from China".
Appalling, appalling, appalling.
I have used ebay in preference over Amazon for years - now I cannot rely on delivery date promises its time to go elsewhere. I'll be spreading the word.
10-07-2019 9:13 AM
@bounty369 wrote:There appears to be no way to get ebay action if sellers lists as in UK then ships from China taking weeks instead of promised days.
It seems like you can't look at delivery date promises Would giving you a full refund at the seller's expense, weeks before the item arrives, count as eBay action?
Is there anything we should reasonably conclude when you, and so many others complaining on this board, have never left feedback suggesting that this has happened to them?
10-07-2019 9:19 AM
@bounty369 wrote:There appears to be no way to get ebay action if sellers lists as in UK then ships from China taking weeks instead of promised days. The immediate clue is shipping details show "Delivery Information Received" for days. When chased turns out to be in hands of "third party" which is clearly "on the way from China".
Appalling, appalling, appalling.
I woncer if we should conclude anything from your posting, within the same minute, a cut and paste version of this post on the business seller board?
11-07-2019 10:44 AM - edited 11-07-2019 10:46 AM
You are another one recommending the use of another online selling plarform as an alternative to eBay
11-07-2019 11:38 AM
I have just received this curious message from my supplier in china:
By the way ,as my news,seems many Chinese sellers have ebay and Amazon store on UK and Europe site,as i known,looks like a lot of profit
and sales is good,the parcles sent from China directly,these sales have not stock actually,in China have a website for supply many kind of items to
these sales,also this website provide a software to help the sales post these items to Ebay and Amazon,this websit support different language,if the sales have a ebay store on UK site,they can choose English and then post,it is very easy,also the sales no need send the goods by themself,
this website can synchronizes your ebay and amazon orders,then this website will send the goods to this customer,so the sales have not stocks and shipping company,the only need post the items to Ebay and Amazon,but i dont know this website name,as your news,do you know it?
It appears that there is some kind of dropshipping service and website in China, which uses centralised stock in HK and they create eBay listings (this is why there are so many virtually identical ones) and when someone orders they press a button and the stock is sent. I have been thinking the only way they can get the stock to the UK is collate their daily orders, send them on a plane, then get it into RM’s system this end. What I couldn’t fathom is how it could be economically viable.
Basically there are vast warehouses and many thousands of sellers get orders, they are all collated by the system, postage is bought from RM (pre-advice), but not manifested until a couple of days later. The orders from the central warehouse are sent via plane to the UK and arrive on day 3, then sent via RM to arrive on day 5. This is how they are managing to still get items to UK customers in 5 working days. If eBay found these sellers using economy 3 day service when actually its RM48 and they can see the postage has been bought but then the item doesn’t move for several days this is what’s happening. I am at the forefront as my products are fast selling low value items, but as this service grows then it will severely hamper all UK sellers to the detriment of eBay
11-07-2019 4:22 PM
@jcfw wrote:I am SO pleased to see this post - I think it's pretty disgusting, foreign companies posing as British ones?! I've been caught out with it recently (has the item arrived? of course not), and have found another company in Hong Kong pulling the same con.
When you see:
UK, United KingdomPosts to:Europe See exclusionsor:Item location:London, United Kingdom- of COURSE you are going to think it's genuinely coming from the UK, from a reputable British supplier? But we now have to check every time (by clicking on the seller's name in Seller Information, or going down to the bottom of the page and clicking on Contact Details under Business Seller Information).It's unfair to paint us disgruntled people as wanting cheapo 'something for nothing' stuff - it's not about the goods, this is a clear case of unscrupulous misrepresentation, and eBay are eagerly collaborating with it whether we like it or not.
I have exactly this right now. I knew it was a chinese seller and was listed with UK stock (it is a talcum powder box so no safety issues)
The item is still not here and seller says please wait a few more days the tracking shows item delayed. WHAT tracking number?
11-07-2019 4:31 PM
11-07-2019 4:42 PM
@lupo-store wrote:
Basically there are vast warehouses and many thousands of sellers get orders, they are all collated by the system, postage is bought from RM (pre-advice), but not manifested until a couple of days later. The orders from the central warehouse are sent via plane to the UK and arrive on day 3, then sent via RM to arrive on day 5. This is how they are managing to still get items to UK customers in 5 working days. If eBay found these sellers using economy 3 day service when actually its RM48 and they can see the postage has been bought but then the item doesn’t move for several days this is what’s happening. I am at the forefront as my products are fast selling low value items, but as this service grows then it will severely hamper all UK sellers to the detriment of eBay
That ia just conjecture which suits your commercial interest. Wed know there are vast warehouses, and also that there are vast fufilment centres in the UK. Dropshipping is allowed on eBay, as long as the location is accurately declared
We also know that they pack the items in bins or pallets in China, and remove them for one of two reasonsL individually to fulfil an order for a Chinese-located item is fine, as is removing a consignment to stock up the fulfilment centre, as long as it is done before the listing opens, or to top up stock there before it runs out. Only dispatching it to the UK fulfilment centre after the customer buys is against eBay policy. That is what you describe, and you have no idea how often it happens.
I;ve received items with the full Chinese customs declaration, from that bin, in SW Scotlsnf twenty hours from buying. But if a seller offers five working day delivery to cover any emergency, an uses a 48 hour frlibrty drtbivr, why sshouldn't he wait two or three days before dispatch? You'd defend a British seller who did.
@lupo-store wrote:I am at the forefront as my products are fast selling low value items, but as this service grows then it will severely hamper all UK sellers to the detriment of eBay
A good many people on threads like this are at that forefront,admitted or not, and suffering competition for the buyers who give such massive feedback for Chinese sellers; UK-located items.
Buyers having to look at the business seller address to see where he is registered? How awful for them! But that address makes it extremely difficult to fool anybody of normal inteligence about his nationality. We had to learn things when we went out to spend our first few pennies in cash, and why shouldn't we have to pay a bit of attention to get what we want on eBay?
11-07-2019 6:55 PM - edited 11-07-2019 6:55 PM
We shoulldn't have to play detective.
ebay gives you the option to choose sellers in your own country only, Dishonest dishonourable sellers in the far east are knowingly breaching the rules on a grand scale a stealing millions in tax as well as the business they are costing both honest far east sellers and all sellers here.
They are defrauding the taxman.
The infrastructure in our country needs paying for. All these good have to be delivered on roads which we pay for out of taxation. This is leeching. The reason things in china cost less is due to the near slave conditions for workers, zero rights.
We are not talking about small individual sellers. They are massive corporations who run hundreds, thousands of accunts on all the e-commerce sites. Working in shifts in tiny little cubicles.
11-07-2019 6:59 PM - edited 11-07-2019 7:02 PM
Also, dropshipping is illegal under GDPR. The seller MUST, by law, get the express consent of the buyer in order to pass their data (name etc) along to a third party.
So no, dropshipping in the way it is being done is not legal on ebay, or any other site operating within the EU, EEA and EFTA.
11-07-2019 9:46 PM
12-07-2019 9:20 AM - edited 12-07-2019 9:23 AM
@armchairpilot1981 wrote:We shoulldn't have to play detective.
Reading the listing for something that is important to you is hardly detective work.
@armchairpilot1981 wrote:We shoulldn't have to play detective.
ebay gives you the option to choose sellers in your own country only,
No they don't. They give you the option to choose items declared as located in your country, and ample means to deal wtih breach of this policy.
@armchairpilot1981 wrote:We are not talking about small individual sellers. They are massive corporations who run hundreds, thousands of accunts on all the e-commerce sites. Working in shifts in tiny little cubicles.
Massive corporations a small fraction of whose British buyers give negative feedback, and a small proportion of whose negative feedback mentions misdeclaration. You want eBay to deprive those buyers of bargains they prefer over yours. I don't suppose you have measured any cubicles, but in the unlikely event that you are right, they are in a country where such jobs keep people from extreme poverty.
13-07-2019 11:05 PM - edited 13-07-2019 11:08 PM
Massive corporations who are systematically breaching the rules here, with clear intent to breach them.
Dishonest and dishonourable. Massive corporations who are breaking the law every single day with every single dropship listing (you seem to have left that part out of your point by point reply, for some reason.)
I never used to need to go clicking though to peoples pages and investigating their old feedback or where they are based. It worked perfectly well before, when ebay actually enforced their rules.
24-07-2019 6:53 PM
BS THEY are 99% Cinese sellers with a UK Address for VAT registration and NOTHING else, the goods are shipped fromn China or Shanghai! DO NOT BE FOOLED.Ebat do not give a **bleep** as long as they get paid!
24-07-2019 7:17 PM
Ah, yet another first post by someone who has never experienced the abuse alleged, if feedback is anything to go by. There is no denying what feedback says about the Chinese sellers who advertise stock held in the UK. Some, far from all, make up an occasional stockholding error by shipping from China, Hundreds of thousands of British buyers get the bargains they want. There is no way eBay will stop them, just for you.
It is interesting to see from which side of this question the bleeped obscentities and the conspicuous morbid obsessions come.
25-07-2019 12:32 AM
I too am finding this and when you try to return something you message the seller and they contact you back at 2am on a Saturday morning then you reply back an don't here anything for 2 days. Also you never get the question answered and when you reply to a comment for the 3rd time to tell them the product doesn't work you have to explain yourself again because someone else picks the complaint up. You can't phone them either. Most Uk sellers still offer a bargain and save you the hassle of trailing 10 kids into town to go to b&m. I try to buy from the uk because of the shipping times I want it in the 3-5 working days not 3-5 weeks