No Sales MKII

[dwtrading2015]

Since the No sales board was abruptly terminated, after 88 pages of contributions, I've tried setting it up again here

[tr3asurep0rium]

I have been doing the same, last week I pre-ordered a couple of designer jackets from Japan, but only because they are pre-order only and won't ship until November! Oh and the yen is low 😄

I see a lot of traffic on my account actually, I think people are window shopping to make plans for what to wear/buy later in the year now whilst they are bored on the beach 😉

[technthread]

I can only hope the bids come in as I suggested 99p starts as they didn't want to promote and I thought some of the stuff would get bid up no problem and needed to be appealing. The lack of watchers is a bit of a worry that I've set them up to give things away far too cheap... some weekend views are needed. 

I have noticed that too with winter clothing so I've been washing some fleeces to list over the weekend. I'm not sure where yet, I'm leaving it until later tonight to decide if I'm cancelling my eBay shop or paying again for August. I'm not sure I've got the motivation to list here, depop is so quiet but I feel like I'm getting somewhere with the listing side, I hardly ever list upwards of 20 a day on eBay. 

[dwtrading2015]

Traffic as in impressions?  I discovered the other day when you keep scrolling down after looking at a listing to se 'alternatives' after a few pages you start recognising things.  The same items are beng re-shown, and I bet each one is counted as an impression.  This will explainwhy eBay fail to crack down on the multi listings with the exact same image.  Youthink you're seeing dozens oflisting for the same item but you're not.  You're seeing the sae listings over and over.  The game is given away when somebody puts up their own image.  What a cheek.

[exponential_developments]

That dead sales this week won't cover the rip off shop fee's.

[charmkeyrings]

If I may say.... I think "rip off"  is a bit strong but I do agree that it has become a bit expensive to sell on ebay successfully.

[pillarboxred]

Hmm. As a seller, I like the reassurance that buyers are who they claim to be, that they have gone through the basic checks eBay (and PayPal) require. Someone with 0 Feedback bought an  item about a month ago, it doesn't seem to have been delivered but the buyer hasn't complained or responded to my enquiry. I wonder whether he was a guest buyer who will now seek repayment using his credit card. If eBay are loosening their grip on what made the company the huge success it is, TRUST, they will be "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

[swiss_expert_uk]

Zero sales today. Second time in a week. 

[exponential_developments]

Fair comment, just annoying that after reading the results ebay is sinking, they are sugar coating, but can't even keep up with inflation.

[dwtrading2015]

"Despite minimal revenue growth, eBay stock has built momentum this year as it has launched new AI features for sellers. EBay also laid off 1,000 employees, or 9% of its staff, earlier this year."

Also the number of buyers is static.  The marginal increase in revenue is down to non-sales income, i.e pay per click amd advanced promo budgets.  It looks like the non-sales income has reached a peak.  And how much of those overall figures refelct losing a massive 1000 off the payroll.

There are so many indicators here that this company is heading into a death spiral.  When you have to sack 9% of your staff to keep growth at least marginally in the black, you know you are in trouble.

How many people have used any AI features?  I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole since I can't verify any details it might produce. Err Sale of Goods Act 1977 people!  AI is a toy marketed by one of the biggest snake oil businesses of all time, Meta, and is already having a damaging efect on original projects that were deveoping at pace before in areas like cancer research.  What these new AI toys are supposed to do for eBay sellers is beyond me, and across many chats it certainly isn't working for most people comenting on their selling performance.

[exponential_developments]

Ebay is worth about £20 billion, its now really quite a small business for a global company, look at the share price performance, the P/E ratio, investors seem to feel it's going nowhere.

[litp*records]

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@charmkeyrings wrote:

If I may say.... I think "rip off"  is a bit strong but I do agree that it has become a bit expensive to sell on ebay successfully.

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No, "Rip off" isn't strong enough.  More like daylight robbery. Paying for shop fees when "private" sellers get free 1000 listings a month and it's still not being policed properly. 

So you get stung by an extra £100s or £1000s a month just for playing by the rules.

What's even the point anymore.  

[litp*records]

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@pillarboxred wrote:

Hmm. As a seller, I like the reassurance that buyers are who they claim to be, that they have gone through the basic checks eBay (and PayPal) require. Someone with 0 Feedback bought an  item about a month ago, it doesn't seem to have been delivered but the buyer hasn't complained or responded to my enquiry. I wonder whether he was a guest buyer who will now seek repayment using his credit card. If eBay are loosening their grip on what made the company the huge success it is, TRUST, they will be "throwing the baby out with the bath water".

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Ah yes the good old "credit card chargeback" method is a great way to shop for free on Ebay.  

I had one about 3 months after the sale and of course myself and Ebay were overruled by the "financial institution" (aka criminal enablers) 

[exponential_developments]

Same here, i've got one, i've spoken to him on the darn phone and he has the item and is happy to have used it, case closed, hell no.

[gift_of_sound]

Regarding today's eBay update to tell us....

A new advertising experience is here...

This is not what either I want to see or any serious investor for that matter. It appears eBay are doubling down on their strategy of maximising their income by extracting more value from sellers bidding amongst themselves for what is left of sales.

I would have preferred to see the same effort and funds allocated to ideas of increasing the attractiveness of the eBay platform and "a new experience" to lure back all those loyal eBay customers that have drifted away...

[theelench]

I was reading on the e-commerce blog site that can't be named that ebay has that in hand, with AI to further enhance the searching / buying experience.

If that means more profiling, with the search 'learning', focusing and refining results in line with past purchase history, that's exactly what I don't want to see.  What we have, after ebay's previous attempts at stream-lining results and reducing what buyers are shown, has been a disaster for collectors and the sellers who sell to them.

It's behind so much of the "Can't find anything on ebay" talk and so true (IMO).  The more ebay interferes between buyers, what they type in the search box and the results they are shown, the worse the results become and sales fall.

Yet ebay seems to think that even more of the same will make things better  --  How ?

[gift_of_sound]

Fantastic, the latest fresh concept to help us increase sales...

"Seller Coupon Programme"

...we here in the eBay ideas department just thought maybe you hadn't considered reducing your asking price further...  🙄

Dear eBay, have you ever thought about increasing the size of the customer base ? Once that has been completed and sales return to what they were before you drove a coach and horses through the previously successful business model, then we may consider fiddling around with coupons....

[swiss_expert_uk]

Anyone selling anything?

[oceanartsnorthdevon]

Nothing, been dead for nearly a week now

[swiss_expert_uk]

Same here. Slow sales I understand, no sales is not normal. 

[divine0606]

Been our slowest weekend here coming from a high volume seller with 11 business accounts and usually where hitting 3000-4000 sales over the weekend and since March we bearly hit 500 sales and this weekend as i'm typing this where currently on 256 sales. 

Moving forward its no longer viable had to lay of staff we've moved majority of our good sellers over to another platform "A" which is doing well i must say and aiming to withdraw all our business from ebay by the end of this year i'm afraid. 

It feels like a big money grab from ebay, trying suck dry sellers for much as they can to keep shareholders happy on a declining and failing platform and i know longer wish to part of it. 

Since there CEO James took over its been a downhill trend his absolutely killed a once brilliant platform.