GPSR Compliance

[bojangled]

This is as clear as mud to me. Been to the gov. advice website and various others.
How does a 1972 poster fit in to this process?

It's not an exempt category. 

Advise buyers this item is for viewing only ? 

My initial reaction, sadly, to to switch EU and NI off. 
Jo

[4_bathrooms]

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@ojewellery wrote:

In theory then, potentially we could send to click and collect locations - they're a business.  Not sure there's a dispatch option for send to click and collect only though.

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You would not be able to do that because you are not supplying the click and collect point; you are supplying an end-consumer. If (for example) you were making a business-to-business supply to a jewellery store in NI and they were in turn directly supplying NI consumers you could register with UKIMS and keep the necessary records and paperwork.

[Anonymous]

Your supplier will need to register with the UK Internal Market Scheme (if they haven't already) to use the green lane system.

Much thanks again. I am registered with the UK Internal Market Scheme, however I didn't twig on that my GB supplier would also need to register (if not already). Thanks for the gov.uk link, and I'll contact them.

[4_bathrooms]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Your supplier will need to register with the UK Internal Market Scheme (if they haven't already) to use the green lane system.

Much thanks again. I am registered with the UK Internal Market Scheme, however I didn't twig on that my GB supplier would also need to register (if not already). 

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Actually, I'm not sure your supplier needs to if you have already registered. I think - though I'm not entirely  sure - that only one party or the other needs to register and supply their EORI number.

[Anonymous]

Actually, I'm not sure your supplier needs to if you have already registered. I think - though I'm not entirely sure - that only one party or the other needs to register and supply their EORI number.

You are correct!

https://www.nicustomstradeacademy.co.uk/news/could-you-benefit-from-joining-the-uk-internal-market-s...

"Businesses sending parcels to another business (B2B movements) between Great Britain and Northern Ireland will follow the same processes as freight from 30 September 2024. To use these processes, either the business sending or receiving the parcel will need to have UKIMS authorisation."

I've been UKIMS registered since July 2023.

[4_bathrooms]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Actually, I'm not sure your supplier needs to if you have already registered. I think - though I'm not entirely sure - that only one party or the other needs to register and supply their EORI number.

You are correct!

https://www.nicustomstradeacademy.co.uk/news/could-you-benefit-from-joining-the-uk-internal-market-scheme/

"Businesses sending parcels to another business (B2B movements) between Great Britain and Northern Ireland will follow the same processes as freight from 30 September 2024. To use these processes, either the business sending or receiving the parcel will need to have UKIMS authorisation."

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Thank you for confirming. I had a feeling only one party needed to register as once an EORI number is supplied recording the movement of the goods that should be all HMRC would need. I thought it seemed a complete waste of resources to ask both (UK established) parties to record the movement and *promise* the goods weren't going to enter the EU via the back door.    

[Anonymous]

I agree, and I am very glad that I now don't have to contact my supplier and ask them to register for the UKIMS. I had a notion that they might dither and delay, or not bother at all with the hassle of applying. I sell exclusively online (Ebay and website) to the UK only, and yes, I have also promised not to send the goods on into Eire/EU, and I have the appropriate compliance measures in place.

That's a weight off my mind with this green lane approaching, and thanks for all of your help.

[collect-on-the-web]

I was pleased to see that stamps were excluded BUT on reading the regulations more closely that excludes stamps that are current. As any unused decimal stamp (e.g. any after 1971) is still able to be used as postage they will not be excluded and will require the additional information. Apart from stamps, most of my sales are collectable items less than 100 years old and the manufacturer has long gone out of business so, like many others, I will just have to exclude EU and NI customers.  Therefore I hope that eBay will make the EU block a single tick box option for excluded countries. It would also be helpfull if eBay made excluded countries a separate template - at the moment it is part of the eBay Business Policies Template so with over 50 different business policies I will need to edit all of them individually.

[stampsnallsorts]

You can already exclude Europe in your postal policies and other areas of the world en mass.

I have decided on December 1st I will be blocking Europe and NI. I do not have many sales outside the Uk so not a great loss to me.

[ojewellery]

@stampsnallsorts  thats kind of the point I'm at but its very 'First they came for.....'

I'm very unhappy clicking exclude NI due to a bit of European legislation.   

It's not about personal loss, thats not sufficient to focus lots of attention on.  It's that NI is part of the UK - we're, as a nation, allowing too many things to divide us at present, loosing out national unity.  Without unity, democracy ceases to function.  Or maybe all the actual riots and fear of riots we're already seeing it unravel.

I can't quite work out how to challenge this though - who to start a messaging campaign to that might actually, with enough voices making the same noise, take some action.

[goodfella66]

Has anyone received a reply from their MP? I emailed mine (Liz Kendall, minister for works & pensions) a few weeks ago and apart from the generic auto-reply, I have received nothing.

[ojewellery]

I've not found mine any use.  I emailed her about concerns over how GCSE results were going to be allocated in COVID and got a response two months later about how the A level results had been allocated. 

[4_bathrooms]

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@ojewellery wrote:

I can't quite work out how to challenge this though - who to start a messaging campaign to that might actually, with enough voices making the same noise, take some action.

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As the Windsor Framework is a political construct only politicians can change it. Enough sellers would need to complain to enough MPs to raise it as a subject to be debated in the House of Commons.

There was always going to be a need for some sort of compromise following Brexit given NI and Eire share an open land border. When the Windsor Framework was announced there was much chirpy noise made about a green lane between GB and NI for goods - you could almost hear the sound of the politicians involved patting themselves on the back. However, what wasn't made clear was the green lane would only exist for goods sent between businesses; goods sent from businesses to consumers still need to comply with the EU's GPSRs even when there are no UK or EU safety regulations that are applicable to the product.

[stampsnallsorts]

The best way to get it discussed in Parliament is to start a petition on the government website.

See - https://petition.parliament.uk/

[ojewellery]

They've gone on holiday though!

[Anonymous]

Has anyone received a reply from their MP? I emailed mine (Liz Kendall, minister for works & pensions) a few weeks ago and apart from the generic auto-reply, I have received nothing.

Same here, no reply from either the MP leader of the DUP or my local member of the local assembly MLA. They're quick to accept their wages though!

[gl_trading]

This is taken from the act:

Antiques, such as works of art or collectors’ items are specific categories of products which cannot be expected to meet the safety requirements laid down by this Regulation, and should therefore be excluded from its scope.

i.e. your exempt!

Your welcome 

[classic_remains2002]

I'll just be blocking the whole of the eu & ni from the end of the year, france and germany already are because of the packaging recycle regulation. All my parts are for classic cars, new old stock, i'm 55 and not interested in jumping through stupid hoops. All my items are brand new but of 1970's or 80's manufacture or older, almost all of the manufacturers are no longer in existance so impossible to comply really. I know a lot of others in my field will be doing the same. There will be a lot of british classic cars off the road in the eu and ni because of this but not my problem.

[stampsnallsorts]

Oh great. What more are Labour going to screw up.

[ojewellery]

I wanted to bump this thread and see if anyones had any new thoughts, up for some form of lobbying.

The petition site is advertising for chair nominations this week so there's hope it'll open again soonish.

I hope its raised at the open and see there is a legislation break out segment in the morning.

Still can't understand how Amazon have a NI workaround but eBay haven't tabled anything

[oilydub]

Has anyone added the information needed to their listings yet?

If so does this show to the prospective buyer or is it only available once a purchase has taken place?