17-10-2024 5:23 PM
No, me neither.
It's like being on holiday in tumbleweed town......
17-10-2024 5:51 PM
DEAD.................................. ☠️
17-10-2024 7:21 PM
Well.......
I did sell an item this week -- the first since May. So perhaps the tide is beginning to turn ?
But seriously, I wonder just how many new private sellers have rushed to put items up for sale ?
Haven't noticed any huge increase in search results for the vintage glass I buy. Ebay has spent a few years putting private sellers off using ebay. Will "free to sell" be any more popular with the huge number of genuine private sellers that stopped selling when it was "free to list" and they also got regular FVF offers ? I don't think so if they left in disgust because of so many reasons. Most of them will either have made other arrangements that they find better, or will have given-up on on-line selling altogether.
Personally, I decided that as a private seller, I won't give ebay my NINO. Despite the free listings and the FVF Offers. Has Free to Sell persuaded me to change my mind ?
No it hasn't.
18-10-2024 6:46 AM
Terrible week here but it is half term if that affects anything ... least im covering my shop fee so ebay will be happy
18-10-2024 7:38 AM
Changes in fees paid by sellers do not directly affect the buying activity of sellers. Buyers are only going to be more likely to buy if sellers pass on the saving (in full, or in part) and reduce their prices. Certainly in the categories I buy from, I’ve seen no evidence of sellers reducing prices.
18-10-2024 7:56 AM
@237ben wrote:Changes in fees paid by sellers do not directly affect the buying activity of sellers. Buyers are only going to be more likely to buy if sellers pass on the saving (in full, or in part) and reduce their prices. Certainly in the categories I buy from, I’ve seen no evidence of sellers reducing prices.
Me neither, 237ben, though I can't say I'm really surprised. eBay have been turning the screw on sellers for years and not only hiked commission up to 12.8% but introduced the Regulatory Operating Fee in April, allegedly to cover the cost of something or other. Funny that that's no longer being charged even though there are still "costs" to eBay, isn't it? Personal opinion: it was just a typically underhand way to hike commission percentage.
I did wonder whether private sellers would reduce their prices by around 10% in order to pass on the removal of commission fees but I have seen absolutely no evidence of that. I suspect that the vast majority are viewing the new regime as a chance not so much to increase what they receive for a sale but as a refund of all the commission that's been squeezed out of them over the years.
I used to sell on this site but refused point blank to hand over my bank details when MP was introduced. No change introduced by eBay since then - no change whatsoever - has made me consider returning. These days I use eBay more as a comparison site and a last-resort buying site.
18-10-2024 8:34 AM
I used my balance to buy on here the other day!
18-10-2024 8:56 AM
That's nice, kempseykate, but was it a purchase that you would have made anyway or a purchase which you made because the new eBay balance encouraged you to 'recycle' your sale proceeds?
If the former then the introduction of eBay's balance has made absolutely no difference to your buying habit. Just saying...
18-10-2024 9:05 AM
It was something I would have bought anyway - but I could have bought it elsewhere.
18-10-2024 9:19 AM
You mention MP and I agree with you. I feel the same way about handing over my NINO and there are (tens of?) thousands of other ex, or soon to be ex-ebay private sellers.
I've sold nothing since May, until this week, despite slowly increasing my number of listings all through the year and faffing about at intervals re-listing as "Sell Similar" to try to prevent ebay totally hiding them when it decides they're 'stale'.
I put up with MP, although I preferred PPs better and quicker service. I hate the Horrible Hub and always have done because the "Classic" All Selling page suited me, as a small private seller, perfectly, but I was railroaded onto the Hub anyway.
The mix of removing the old Categories and the (Still incomplete) transition to ebay's bizarre IS based searching system and its even more bizarre search results, virtually ended my sales. Add to that my loss of visibility because I don't Sponsor my listings and ebay has almost finished them off. (Four in ten months this year. Ten years ago I was selling more like four items a week.)
That's just my selection of ebays worst changes, others who have already left will probably have different sets of reasons for doing so. So it's now "Free To Sell" on a site that first crippled, then wiped-out my sales and those of so many others.
The site remains the same, apart from a big new banner over the door, and I wonder how many sellers who left for any of those various reasons will return to bang their heads against the same wall a few more times?
As for the hoped for influx of new sellers, how many will sell anything without knowing that 'sponsoring' is now a prerequisite ?
How many will be shocked to find that their cash will be on Hold because they're New Sellers ?
How many will be disgusted to find that they've been awarded a defect for 'Late Delivery' because they don't know how to begin avoiding them?
How will they avoid having their items stolen by devious buyers who know far better than they how to work ebays MBG to their advantage?
Etc., etc., etc.
Will they come back to sell more than once or twice on a site that might be free to use but is also more complicated, user-unfriendly, stacked against private sellers and generally no longer set up to meet the needs of small private sellers?
I think the days are gone when every disgruntled seller who left was instantly replaced by a dozen others. So many have come and gone, so many giving ebay a "Bad Review" for so many reasons over years, to anyone who cared to listen. So I don't think ebay can rely on private sellers (New or Returning) to get it out of the hole that it's dug for itself. It's used, abused, neglected and generally ignored them for too long and ebay's going to find all those chickens coming home to roost.
18-10-2024 12:22 PM
Yup, they have to go back to basics and look at the model of how it used to be. I agree there have been improvements but it is not the beast it once was.
With the dwindling pot of the world to sell to and just pile a mountain of fees on a sale which makes things a bit more expensive and people are not buying.Then to come up with this brilliant idea to give private sellers free fees and then let a flood tide of expensive items for sale, did they really think it was going to make a huge difference.
I feel I only ever come on here to moan which in real life I am not like it but I am so disheartened with the way things are going.
CUT THE FEES FOR ALL
18-10-2024 1:07 PM
eBay is a dead zone when it comes to selling, unless you're selling items for far less than you bought them for, sales have dropped off so considerably, eBay is fast becoming an unviable selling platform!
18-10-2024 1:18 PM
Since the change my sales are 16/10 £0, 17/10 £30.80 and today £0.
5000+ items listed and that is my paltry total for almost 72 hours. After ebay fees I have banked £0.79 and spent £7.55 on postage.
Obviously it could just be coincidence as ebay is nowhere near the marketplace it used to be, or it could be the final nail getting hammered in this sellers coffin......
18-10-2024 1:59 PM
Traffic remains at pathetic levels, 50 - 60% lower than where it would have been 2 - 3 years ago.
18-10-2024 2:26 PM - edited 18-10-2024 2:26 PM
Quick prediction which I leave here for posterity to judge:
eBay will fail within 12 -18 months of announcing that fees are being passed on to the Buyers. 2 years tops and they'll be dead in the water.
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kh-adrian
Ive never known anything like it - My own website is now earning more than Ebay, Im getting single figure sales (often under 5 now) when years ago easy 20+ a day - October - November are my busiest month so would have had 25-30+ in years gone by, absolutely desperate for a break it used to be that busy. - It certainly isnt ppl not buying, as my other platform (Amz and my own website) are selling way more. Ebay has just lost its way. Free fees for Private sellers ? Feels like its back to being a 2nd hand flee market. I absolutely refuse now to pay for any promos - Im getting the big yellow banner now asking me to "dive back in" now Im offered free £200 towards ads - Im sick of the money grabbing fees that they want but little in return - Dont get me wrong Amzn are worse for fees etc but at least I get the sales to justify it. Ebay just want our money in ads
18-10-2024 3:45 PM
I've never paid any sort of advertising on ebay and never will.
Currently paying around 22%/mth in fees and there is no way I am going to increase that figure for what is a truly cack experience as a seller.
18-10-2024 7:26 PM
@kempseykate did yu buy from a business seller or a private seller?
18-10-2024 7:34 PM
@the-nutwood-collection Business. Most of the items I buy on here are from (registered) business sellers.
18-10-2024 7:43 PM
@kempseykate Good for you! Gold Star!