08-10-2012 6:52 PM
No thread about this on here, so I thought I'd start one.
My starter for ten is this: Okay, I'm not saying anybody is making anything up, but why did all these people wait till he was dead before accusing him of all this stuff? And quite frankly, now he's dead, what can come from it other than tarnishing a reputation that was spotless and upsetting his grieving family even further. Seems basically wrong to me. Why does someone always have to bring down our heroes and role models? They should have done what they're doing now ten years ago or not at all if you ask me.
Nick
09-10-2012 8:29 PM
From what I have just read his family are going to remove his headstone and many other plaques are also being removed and charities he was associated with I think are now trying to "disassociate his name".
09-10-2012 8:30 PM
In Fact Esther Ranzten was talking about him this morning on Daybreak and she said she never really liked him and found him quite creepy
09-10-2012 8:31 PM
I'm hoping that the people from the BBC who have admitted to knowing about Saville abusing these girls (& I mean the ones that 'knew', not just suspected) are done for 'perverting the course of justice' as those cowards allowed it to continue so that more & more young people were able to be abused. How any grown adult can keep quiet whilst a young girl is abused escapes me & comes across as condoning the actions of Saville & his cronies.
09-10-2012 9:40 PM
Re the Knighthood:
"It's a living order and then you cease to be a member when you die," a Cabinet Office spokesman said. "There isn't an honour to revoke."
Hi maggie :-x
Looks like our Prime Minister didn't know this fact !
Perhaps this is the link you extracted from ......
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-boss-promises-savile-inquiry-072324862.html
09-10-2012 10:13 PM
Hi Suzie ,Maggie is quite right. The title dies with the person. What I feel is that creature having had the title is now the travesty 😐 I don't think David Cameron is in the dark (all those advisors mmm ?).
10-10-2012 6:31 AM
This audio tape , is how Savile worked, listen to what the girl says and Saviles reply
The girls Parents were present and only feet away, but he makes it out the Girl is lying, an expert. at manipulation.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a410872/jimmy-savile-abuse-claims-radio-1-tape-emerges-listen.html
10-10-2012 10:40 AM
Sickening! That made my skin crawl.
11-10-2012 12:40 AM
It gets worse:-(
11-10-2012 7:04 AM
I'm horrified at the thought that the money he could generate may have been at the root of many people keeping quiet and effectively aiding and abetting child abuse.
Who is worse, the pervert (who presumably some how in their own mind believes that they have a "right" to do what they do), or the observer who fully appreciates the evil being perpetrated but allows it to continue to avoid losing the goose that lays the golden egg?
I believe the allegations being made, it's all coming to thick and fast for me to think otherwise. At the same time, I did feel a bit uncomfortable when I heard a police officer being interviewed on the news referring to him as a sexual predator, because in our justice system shouldn't the police still be referred to allegations?
I've never liked JS nor have any sympathy for anyone who would hurt a child, but still AFAIK there's not been a full police investigation carried out and until at least that's been done they should at least be seen to be conducting an impartial investiation.
soft as velvet but comes with needle sharp claws
11-10-2012 7:47 AM
I read somewhere yesterday that his grave is actually "concrete lined" - I wonder why this is? anyone have any ideas? Was this done because they knew of his history? So many questions!! Also it looks like they may be removing his coffin from the cemetary. All very weird, in my opinion.
11-10-2012 9:36 AM
I just wish all this had come out when he was alive, that man went to his death with a clear conscious knowing he would be hailed as a hero ...he even planned his own funeral to encapsulate his fame.
I would have loved to have been at his deathbed and whisper to him …
“Jim can you fix this? I know what you are all about, what you’ve done and to whom and your entire life of child abuse is going to be exposed in detail along with all those people who covered up for you.
Take that to your grave as a lasting thought Sir Jimmy Savile!”
11-10-2012 9:38 AM
Mitzi,I think the most sickening thing about the whole affair is how many knew about it and let it go on.
11-10-2012 9:42 AM
Marge - Absolutely and I also wonder how many of those people were members of his own family - abuse always starts in the home!
11-10-2012 10:25 AM
My problem with this is ...
The man is dead... he cannot offer any defense...( Not that I am saying there is any defense for his behaviour if it is true)
So... Let us accept that what everyone is saying is true and that he was an abuser...
Do not bother investigating the 120 + lines of enquiry across 6 forces... At the end of the day we will all form our own opinions anyway...
Then donate the £20,000,000 saved in police time to Childline..
And instead of the police investigating a man who is dead and buried... start investigating someone who is alive that can then be prosecuted for his /her crimes...
11-10-2012 10:42 AM
This is just a waste of Police time now.. They had their chance when he was alive, i wonder how many are jumping on the bandwagon.
My problem with this is ...
The man is dead... he cannot offer any defense...( Not that I am saying there is any defense for his behaviour if it is true)
So... Let us accept that what everyone is saying is true and that he was an abuser...
Do not bother investigating the 120 + lines of enquiry across 6 forces... At the end of the day we will all form our own opinions anyway...
Then donate the £20,000,000 saved in police time to Childline..
And instead of the police investigating a man who is dead and buried... start investigating someone who is alive that can then be prosecuted for his /her crimes...
11-10-2012 11:14 AM
This is just a waste of Police time now.. They had their chance when he was alive, I wonder how many are jumping on the bandwagon.
We'll find out when the compensation claims start.
11-10-2012 1:26 PM
If a member of my nearest & dearest claimed to have been abused by a now deceased former TV & radio personality knighted for his good works, then I would want it investigating and the truth to come out.
So while I can appreciate what you're saying about how the funds might be better spent, I can't agree.
soft as velvet but comes with needle sharp claws
11-10-2012 3:12 PM
If the investigation ceases, as some of you understandably suggest, then all the other dirty old men who were part of his world of show biz who now sit chewing their nails in case they get a mention, will slither back under the rock. Showbiz in the 70s and early 80s was rife with child abuse and ...not all of them are dead...
11-10-2012 4:50 PM
#38 Mal.,Do you consider yourself a basically good man ?
11-10-2012 6:46 PM
Posts are missing.:-(