Should Faith/Religion Have Such a High Value In Our Society?

[lambsy_uk]

I'm not here to trample all over people's faith/beliefs but to ask if/why such beliefs should hold such high value in our society?

So where am I comming from? Well we can freely question almost anything in our society/lives; morals, political beliefs, actions and reactions, motivations, interactions, foreign policy, education, welfare, how we raise our children, law and order and so on..........

However we are positively discouraged from questioning people's faith/beliefs/religion! We are also actively encouraged to accommodate and allow for people's religious beliefs, and this is the bit that really irks me! Why is it that if something is done in the name of a religious belief/practice then we are expected to accept it with little fuss where if any other excuse were used we'd be up in arms?

We endure arguments of whether animal rights should take precedence over religion, whether saving the life of a child should take precedence over their parent's beliefs, should freedom of expression take precedence over religious sensitivities?

For me you may as well base stuff on the football team you support;

"I can't comply with the company dress code because I'm a United fan and therefore I must be allowed to wear a United shirt at work."

As far as I'm concerned this is no more ridiculous than anything done/not done in the name of religious beliefs!

So why do religious beliefs hold such high status and is it right that they do?

[tommy.irene]

www.irishcentral.com/news/News-of-Tuam-babies-lands-in-Italy--more-lessons-from-Catholic-Ireland.htm...

[astrologica]

Tommy.....thank you for posting that. It's very interesting, and sad to the point of being tragic. Those poor children...and their mothers.

[saasher2012]

To quote you Astro "DUW" this is an awful thing indeed!.

[tommy.irene]

This is what happens when you let the churchs rule your life and they tell you its a sin to have children outside of wedlock.

[tommy.irene]

www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-actor-gabriel-byrne-says-the-catholic-church-is-a-force-for-evil-201...     ..

Irish actor Gabriel Byrne says the Catholic Church “is a force for evil”

[lambsy_uk]

Shows what can happen when we let organised religion run amok!

[tommy.irene]

ww.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-American-parish-priest-is-set-for-sainthood.html

[cee-dee]

A case comes to a close. (Well, from the legal aspect anyway)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-28127683

[tommy.irene]

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@cee-dee wrote:

A case comes to a close. (Well, from the legal aspect anyway)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-28127683

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Sentencing him to 14 years, Judge Richard Twomlow, said: "Your victims felt inhibited about what they could say because of your position as an elder."

"You caused distress in the lives of your victims who had the feeling they were disbelieved.

"You have shown not a thread of remorse."

All Jehovah's Witness congregation are registered charities and the Charity Commission is investigating the case.

[tommy.irene]

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[renomarvinm]

Your question is not relevant - no matter how logical you try to be, you cannot edit out religious desires or even modify them in any way - people just won't go for it.  They are emotions, after all and, as such, are uncontrollible.

The first rule of politics is this - do not try to be logical - find an emotional hook and pull on that.  Same for religion.

[bankhaunter]

How is Domionism getting on in the US?

That is really scary makes me glad I don't live there, anyone on the fence about it should read 'The Handmaid's Tale' before going down that route.

[tommy.irene]

'She dropped her Godly protection for a moment': Friend reveals Magaluf girl is from family of born-again Christians who have FORGIVEN her... as organiser of event claims he 'doesn't know what the fuss is about'

• British girl, 18, filmed performing a sex act on 24 men in Magaluf, Majorca
  
• Donning pink hotpants, she was cheered on as she went from man to man
• Footage was later posted online, sparking outrage among local politicians
• Now, friend says she has been forgiven by family of born-again Christians
• 'Her family love her and will protect her in their faith,' she claimed today
  
• Girl's father reportedly 'praying for strength and guidance' at family home
• Comes as organiser has claimed 'he doesn't know what the fuss is about'
• Alex Collinson, 28, even described men taking part in the video as 'studs'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681472/She-dropped-Godly-protection-moment-Friend-reveals-M... 

[bankhaunter]

Is 'Godly protection' better than commonsense and self respect?

Stupid girl, she'll have that hanging over her for years, it has the potential to haunt her life.

[saasher2012]

Do not the men who also involved themselves in this silly game also deserve the same sort of condemnation .

[bankhaunter]

Quite possibly but they are unlikely to suffer any consequences as a result.

Especially since the men tend to be thought of as 'jack the lads' with condemnation reserved only for the woman, it's not right but it will be a very long time before the inherent unfairness and illogicality is recognised by most people.

[tommy.irene]

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@bankhaunter wrote:

Quite possibly but they are unlikely to suffer any consequences as a result.

Especially since the men tend to be thought of as 'jack the lads' with condemnation reserved only for the woman, it's not right but it will be a very long time before the inherent unfairness and illogicality is recognised by most people.

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Bankhunter is right..Its like the football teams who used to gang bang the girls who followed them everwere. the girls were called roadies..or sluts..

[saasher2012]

Then if that's the case let us hope this silly girl in her drunken state hasn't caught anything from these so called " Jack the lads" or the loss of her reputation might not be the only thing she'll regret!.

[tommy.irene]

He had it all — charm, charisma, exotic looks, long dark hair, infamously big hands and a repertoire of hilarious on-court antics. 

Millions of hot-blooded women (and their mums) would have done anything to go to bed with him. 

According to his autobiography, at least 2,500 made the cut — he was sixth in Maxim magazine’s Top Ten Legends Of Sex (sandwiched between his old mates actor Jack Nicholson and crooner Julio Iglesias).

‘I like women. I love women. It is normal to love a woman,’ he says. But 2,500? ‘No, no, no! It wasn’t that many. It was exaggerated for my autobiography. They wanted a big number — to make it sell better.’ So how many was it?

‘I don’t know — 300, 400? I never added them up — it didn’t feel right. How could I remember? Anyway, what does it matter — 2,500 or 500, they’re not going to give me a medal, are they? And there were a lot of misses.’ Misses?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2681165/So-General-Nastase-did-wife-feel-told-lover-No-2-5... 
EVEN HE SAYS WOMEN THREW THEMSELVES AT HIM...

[saasher2012]

I like the way he says woman of 50+ aren't in good shape! Hey Nasty had a good look in the mirror just lately? lol.