16-06-2014 3:53 PM
Should we have to ask someone before we kiss them so as to negate claims of sexual harrassment?
See link below for news story?
18-06-2014 11:58 AM
IT IS DENIED!!!!! lol,lol,lol, she told me!!!!![]()
,,, oooooh wonder why???.
18-06-2014 3:24 PM
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Move over Rose I want to grab a little of this scene......
Yes its Tommy. And he kissed MUM without asking. Well I did warn him that she has a temper.
Right I'm back tonight with some tea and biscuits ...............................................for ME !!!
18-06-2014 5:45 PM
@lambsy_uk wrote:This is not about greetings it's about kissing someone you fancy, on a first date for example, should you have to ask first or should it be spontaneous? Have we read the article?
In my time I've never had to ask a girl if I could kiss them and I've never been left embarrassed either, all done on body language and instinct, besides they were all begging for it!
Correct, the link in OP is not about the quick peck(s) on the cheek and/or embrace as a form of greeting. Some have already said they find even that an invasion of their personal space, a view I don't share, but willingly respect.
The article is about whether an unwanted kiss can be a form of sexual assault. As the Nigel Evans case is mentioned in the first few paragraphs, if there are any around I'd like to ask this question to the heterosexual males on here.
In a social setting, if another man approached you and without further preamble gave you a long lingering kiss on the lips, what would be your first reaction, would you find it offensive?
As the article also touches on harrassment in the workplace and is not gender specific, I have a subsidiary question.
Would you be more inclined to grin and bear it if the other man was your boss/superior at work, would you complain or deal with it another way?
18-06-2014 10:23 PM
I'd knock him out...............if he was my boss, I'd take even more pleasure in knocking him out !
19-06-2014 12:03 PM
Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.![]()
19-06-2014 12:51 PM
@i-am-legion-too wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:This is not about greetings it's about kissing someone you fancy, on a first date for example, should you have to ask first or should it be spontaneous? Have we read the article?
In my time I've never had to ask a girl if I could kiss them and I've never been left embarrassed either, all done on body language and instinct, besides they were all begging for it!
Correct, the link in OP is not about the quick peck(s) on the cheek and/or embrace as a form of greeting. Some have already said they find even that an invasion of their personal space, a view I don't share, but willingly respect.
The article is about whether an unwanted kiss can be a form of sexual assault. As the Nigel Evans case is mentioned in the first few paragraphs, if there are any around I'd like to ask this question to the heterosexual males on here.
In a social setting, if another man approached you and without further preamble gave you a long lingering kiss on the lips, what would be your first reaction, would you find it offensive?
As the article also touches on harrassment in the workplace and is not gender specific, I have a subsidiary question.
Would you be more inclined to grin and bear it if the other man was your boss/superior at work, would you complain or deal with it another way?
Great, something to discuss!
My first reaction to the man in the social setting would be one of surprise and flattery. I'd probably say "what the hell was that for?" and he'd say "just couldn't resitst", and I'd say "understandable."
I'm not one for making a big deal out of things though I will admit I may have reacted differently when younger, I'm in my 40s now. Of course things would also depend on the circumstances surroung this all; who it was, where, when and why, but on the whole I feel I'd take it in my stride.
Now if it were someone at work there's a big difference, no one in a work situation should be conducting themselves in such a way and for a boss it could be construde as taking advantage of their position, making a subordinate feel uncomfortable. Again though this can depend on circumstances such as the kind of relationship and raport you have with your boss. My instinct would be to complain though not necessarily depending on if I felt another course of action were more appropriate.
19-06-2014 12:54 PM
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
19-06-2014 1:05 PM
19-06-2014 1:35 PM - edited 19-06-2014 1:36 PM
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
OOh cant say anything can i?????. I AM PROUD YES!!!!!!!!! of the fact i had a boss i work with make advances towards me sexually and they lost their job as i reported it and did not let anyone step all over me ok???. I suggest you stop being so dictatorial and rude to people on here!!!!.
19-06-2014 1:46 PM
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
OOh cant say anything can i?????. I AM PROUD YES!!!!!!!!! of the fact i had a boss i work with make advances towards me sexually and they lost their job as i reported it and did not let anyone step all over me ok???. I suggest you stop being so dictatorial and rude to people on here!!!!.
Asking a question should not be construde as rudeness otherwise we'd not discuss much would we!
Reporting sexual harrassment and not letting anyone step all over you in such a situation is a perfectly acceptable and normal course of action, but I fail to understand why getting someone sacked would lead to so much pride!
I reported someone at work once for threatening behaviour, it was dealt with and he was not there much longer, can't say his dismissal gave me great pleasure though!
19-06-2014 1:49 PM
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
OOh cant say anything can i?????. I AM PROUD YES!!!!!!!!! of the fact i had a boss i work with make advances towards me sexually and they lost their job as i reported it and did not let anyone step all over me ok???. I suggest you stop being so dictatorial and rude to people on here!!!!.
Asking a question should not be construde as rudeness otherwise we'd not discuss much would we!
Reporting sexual harrassment and not letting anyone step all over you in such a situation is a perfectly acceptable and normal course of action, but I fail to understand why getting someone sacked would lead to so much pride!
I reported someone at work once for threatening behaviour, it was dealt with and he was not there much longer, can't say his dismissal gave me great pleasure though!
WELL it did me and they will surely think twice about doing it again to some other poor woman.![]()
19-06-2014 2:15 PM
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
OOh cant say anything can i?????. I AM PROUD YES!!!!!!!!! of the fact i had a boss i work with make advances towards me sexually and they lost their job as i reported it and did not let anyone step all over me ok???. I suggest you stop being so dictatorial and rude to people on here!!!!.
Asking a question should not be construde as rudeness otherwise we'd not discuss much would we!
Reporting sexual harrassment and not letting anyone step all over you in such a situation is a perfectly acceptable and normal course of action, but I fail to understand why getting someone sacked would lead to so much pride!
I reported someone at work once for threatening behaviour, it was dealt with and he was not there much longer, can't say his dismissal gave me great pleasure though!
WELL it did me and they will surely think twice about doing it again to some other poor woman.
Whatever floats your boat I guess! ![]()
19-06-2014 2:33 PM
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:
@lambsy_uk wrote:
@rose2008-2008 wrote:Ha ha ha i would KO him aswell well and truly,,, and if he was my boss he would not be in his job for long as some bosses have already found out with me,,,, not about kissing but sexual remarks.
This suggests that some have lost their jobs due to situations involving yourself; is this really something to be so proud and smug about?!
OOh cant say anything can i?????. I AM PROUD YES!!!!!!!!! of the fact i had a boss i work with make advances towards me sexually and they lost their job as i reported it and did not let anyone step all over me ok???. I suggest you stop being so dictatorial and rude to people on here!!!!.
Asking a question should not be construde as rudeness otherwise we'd not discuss much would we!
Reporting sexual harrassment and not letting anyone step all over you in such a situation is a perfectly acceptable and normal course of action, but I fail to understand why getting someone sacked would lead to so much pride!
I reported someone at work once for threatening behaviour, it was dealt with and he was not there much longer, can't say his dismissal gave me great pleasure though!
WELL it did me and they will surely think twice about doing it again to some other poor woman.
Whatever floats your boat I guess!
We "re Floatin!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,![]()
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