Is BBC worth the cost of the licence?.

i know at one time they had a monopoly, but now with 100s of channels to choose from surely not.

 

Now they've came up with this, previously free to laptops and other devices.

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bbc-to-start-charging-for-iplayer-catch-up-service-070503593.html#RAzdmVT

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@electric*mayhem*band wrote:

Question. 'What's the difference between a BBC TV Detector Van, and the Dodo bird ?

 

Answer.    'The Dodo bird actually existed.


The BBC "Detector Vans", while fictitious at the time,  may have been a kind of prelude of the future. When the BBC tries to detect people who express views which are politically incorrect.

 

Already, this policy has been applied within the BBC.  All BBC programmes are now politically correct.  As we all know. 

 

Soon, all listeners and viewers of BBC programmes will have to be politically correct too.  Or else the Vans will seek them out, and cut off their licences.

 

 

 

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"BBC Under Fire For Secret Use Of RIPA Surveillance Powers"

 

RIPA allows public organisations to get hold of information from ISPs about suspects, such as account information and communications data, including who the suspect has been contacting and when. But they have to get permission from either the home secretary or the secretary of state for justice before using higher level surveillance, which includes bugging people’s homes or intercepting communications.

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/workspace/bbc-ripa-surveillance-bbw-big-brother-90086

 

The BBC said it had not been secretive about how it was using RIPA powers. “The BBC uses Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act for the detection of television licence evasion alone,”





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It has always been like that The BeeB have been carrying out covert operations for years, spying on those who only had a TV for decoration or who watched the news but that was all. Here are three of the heavily disguised vehicles they used but to limited effect,

 

Recognise the Morris Oxford estate lurking beneath a fruit cloche? Did the guy on the Left manage to open the box with Bob Danvers Walker?

 

1963_Television_Detedtor_Van.jpg

 

 

Is this a 1968 Commer Commercial or a mobile Gondola?

 

tvdetectMS1407_468x328.jpg

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Where the BBC vans always a myth then?

 

I mean they couldn't really detect a TV set being used by someone who hadn't got a License.

 

Was it just a scare tactic

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Yes.

 

Next question:

 

'Jackanory' was a BBC television programme transmitted between 1965, and 1996. Were the stories narrated each episode, fact or fiction ?

 

Mister EMB






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Sorry, I don't understand your question, could you explain it please? Thanks

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I will have a go at explaining what emb means for you :)...jackanory was a program transmitted between whenever to whenever narrated by a story teller...fact or fiction ? 

 

 

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Sorry. The recalcitrant 'in' was missing from the above question, thus causing you some confusion. Correctly edited text below.

 

'Were the stories narrated in each episode, fact or fiction' ?

 

If this is still causing you some concern, please contact us at the following address.

 

British Broadcasting Corporation,

 

Wood Lane,


London W12 7TQ.

 

Thank you for responding to our questionnaire. Your interest is important to us.

 

 

Mister EMB






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ahhhh I see so 'in' whenever to whenever fact distorted to fiction. and visa versa ..well I never 🙂

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This from an article in the Independent 1996, I know it’s long but stick it out and take note of comments made by Rolf Harris

 

These days, Muffin the Mule lives in agreeable retirement in the Museum of the Moving Image on London's South Bank - unlike Annette Mills, sister of John Mills, on whose piano Muffin would prance around like Michael Jackson on Tamazapan. She died in January 1955, the very week after Muffin got the chop.

 

Muffin the Mule, Andy Pandy, the Woodentops, Pinky and Perky, The Magic Roundabout, Jackanory, Animal Magic, Blue Peter, the Flowerpot Men - the roll-call could go on and on, and is enough to have a fully-grown baby- boomer crying for his mummy. Talking of which, Watch with Mother managed to survive sexual and social revolutions, so that by the time it too felt the axe, in 1980, there were very few mothers left at home for toddlers to watch with. Today, it would have to be called Watch with the Nanny. Or, for the greater part of what remains of society, Watch It on Your Own. 

 

Presiding over this heritage, and with the unenviable task of steering BBC Children's TV into the 21st century amid the shrieks and howls of moral crusaders and nostalgic parents (often the same thing), is Anna Home, who has been in BBC Children's Television since 1965, working on staples such as Play School and Jackanory, as well as pioneering drama series such as Grange Hill and the recent Demon Headmaster.

 

"Every generation brings with it their own memories," says Home, quashing the seemingly God-given right of those raised in the Fifties and Sixties to monopolise nostalgia. "There are secretaries in my office who talk fondly of Rent-a-Ghost, which means nothing to the Andy Pandy generation.

 

"The people who perceive that standards have fallen are those who remember their own childhood and are nostalgic for a style that harks back years ago," says Home. "I often get the same people saying how nice it is to see that Blue Peter is still on. And I say, but have you seen Blue Peter recently?"

The revamped show, which regularly attracts up to five million viewers and which now goes out three times a week, would be almost unrecognisable to adults with memories of collecting milk-bottle tops and watching Val Singleton explain how to build a tractor for Third World countries using washing-up liquid bottles.

New technology has revolutionised other old BBC formats. Newsround, for instance, which at one time plodded along faithfully with John Craven and zoo stories, is now pacey and punctuated with vivid graphics. Jackanory is another long-runner unrecognisable from its former self. "If you look at early Jackanory's, it's just one person sat on a white wrought-iron bench talking at you," says Anna Home. "Now it's full of pictures, action and drama."

Which is exactly what some critic’s object to believing that such hyperactive presentation reduces children's ability to concentrate. Studies have claimed to show that children watching TV enter a trance-like state where the metabolic rate sinks lower than sleep.

 

In fact, in criticism of modern children's TV one senses a ragbag of concerns - from presenters' use of Estuary English (or, as the Daily Mail puts it, "displaying urban yob characteristics"), to what is perceived as the anarchic "paint-throwing tendencies" of much of modern children's TV.

These were described to the Daily Mail by Rolf Harris at the time that his BBC children's programme Rolf's Cartoon Club was axed in 1994: "The presenters go for easy laughs by dunking people in gunk or pouring paint over them," he said. "I find myself disgusted by the way so many of these programmes treat children like idiots. It is so patronising. Every time you turn on children's TV you see adults acting like complete morons because they think the children expect it."

 

Rolf Harris has since made his peace with the BBC, returning to the fold with hugely popular early-evening shows where he holds the paws of sick animals. But Anna Home disagrees with his analysis. "Children's TV has to move with the way society moves," she says. "One of the old-fashioned traditions was that it was handed down by adults as if on tablets of stone. If children were on the screen at all, they were very tokenistic, whereas now they're very involved in programming, both in terms of ideas and on- screen presentation."

Moral scares are nothing new to BBC Children's Television. It seems you could just stick the test card up and there will be someone somewhere who somehow sees it as inciting paedophilia. The peculiar language used by Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men, for example, had parents in the Fifties worrying that their children's speech development would be impaired (Bill and Ben's voices were created by Peter Hawkins, who seems to have been something of a genius, as he also created the voices of Captain Pugwash and the Daleks.) And Sixties parents were outraged when Sooty got a girlfriend, Sue the panda. Not only that, but they seemed to cohabit out of wedlock.

However, at the end of the day, it matters less what the parents think as what the children want to watch. Here lies the BBC's biggest problem as it gears up for the new millennium. With satellite gate crashing the terrestrial party, the competition is hot when the tiny tots' fingers are on the remote control.

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Do you realise that the BBC started the 'Tech boom' in the UK, when they through the BBC Computer Literacy Project, released the BBC Micro, unlike the Sinclair ZX81, it was very very adaptable

 

also through the BBC Computer Literacy Program, The Beeb will soon be issuing over a MILLION Micro:Bits to 11yo British schoolchildren

 

These small codable pocket sized computers are to promote coding in Kids

 

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Human sat nav lol a whole new take on 'we know where you are' . 

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@al**bear wrote:

Do you realise that the BBC started the 'Tech boom' in the UK, when they through the BBC Computer Literacy Project, released the BBC Micro, unlike the Sinclair ZX81, it was very very adaptable

 

also through the BBC Computer Literacy Program, The Beeb will soon be issuing over a MILLION Micro:Bits to 11yo British schoolchildren

 

These small codable pocket sized computers are to promote coding in Kids

 


The users of these new computers certainly look very multicutural.  One user had a hijab on.  Hopefully she won't radicalised through an ISIS link on the computer.

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I think the BBC is worth every penny of the licence fee, probably because I don't have Sky and rarely watch commercial stations. I'm totally against TV advertising in particular because it is all so infantile and unnecessarily noisy, probably because most advertising is odiously aimed at children who of course are the consumers of the future.

 

I think the BBC's news coverage is second to none, most of their scientific output is well made without being overcomplicated, their dramas are usually well acted and produced and their coverage of the sports I'm interested in (Tennis, Snooker and Formula1) is first class. I've been in heaven this past fortnight watching Wimbledon.

 

There is far too much drivel on TV, I'm glad the BBC is there to restore a little balance. Smiley Happy

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I never watch TV these days.  I can't stand it.   The programmes induce nausea.  The BBC programmes are worst of all.

 

The constant, relentless, dumbed-down, Left-wing, Marxist, Feminist "Guardianista" bias in all their programmes, is so blatant.

 

How can you claim that the BBC "restores a lttle balance"?  I can't see it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was referring to their program content eg sensible and interesting documentaries as opposed to things like Benefits Street, Big Brother, Tattoo Fixers, Obsessive Compulsive Cleaners, My Big Fat Gipsy Nonsense etc. The only BBC channel I won't watch is BBC3  aka their 'yoof' channel which is basically ITV or C4 without the ads. mercifully that will be online only from next year. 

 

I know they are constantly plugging their PC credentials, I do get a little tired of seeing Lise Doucett's pained expression on the News Channel as she gazes at lines of starving Iraqi kids sitting in the gutter and Frank Gardiner with his Zimmer frame gesturing over some middle eastern landscape somewhere, but that's all part and parcel of the times we live in. They have to be all inclusive, as we are all encouraged to be so I put up with it.

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Hello

 

I don't watch TV / don't have one = simple Woman Wink

 

I don't watch TV on my laptop either as prefer listening to music or practicing my Kora = much healthier for my brain cells or what is left of them Woman LOL

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you need a tv licence then as lap tops count as signal receivers ...cough up 🙂

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You only need a licence if you watch TV broadcasts as they are being broadcast.

 

The mere fact a laptop may be capable of receiving TV means nothing.

 

Since I've moved I get letters addressed to the 'legal occupier', I'm thinking that the next one might be reposted marked with 'Person not known at this address'.

I don't have a TV but I'm not pandering to them.

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according to the nice tv licence people lap tops and mobiles count and thats why I hate the service..it assumes you are using it because technology is adding it into everything...smells like a gov tax swindle to me.

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