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sir_arthur_strebe-grebling · ‎17-03-2014

The people of Crimea vote to leave Ukraine without anyone else having a say, and the rest of the world condemns the action and imposes sanctions.

The people of Scotland are given a vote to leave the United Kingdom without anyone else having a say ...

spawnjohnuk · ‎20-03-2014

Absolutley

bankhaunter · ‎20-03-2014

@ecclesvinaigrette wrote:
Is this a land grab or just the majority getting their way?
Wonder what would happen if the residents of Golders Green voted to join Israel or those in Bradford chose to be part of Bangladesh, would this be the right move ?

But Bradford has never been part of Bangladesh nor is it almost completely geographically separate from the UK., there is no comparison whatsoever.

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ecclesvinaigrette · ‎20-03-2014

Ok how does your theory sit with the Malvinas Islands?

bankhaunter · ‎21-03-2014

The Falklands are populated with people who have no desire to be part of Argentina, it would be a different matter if they did but Argentina's actions have more or less guaranteed it will be a very long time before that's likely to happen.

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ecclesvinaigrette · ‎21-03-2014

Fair point but it still comes down to the fact that Russia and it's politicians don't seem to have grasped the damage their behaviour can do. We have had so many wars in the past , millions have died defending so called freedom, does being part of the Ukraine actually pose a threat to Russians in Crimea? If it does then what can be done to help. Ukraine, Poland etc have all been subservient to the old Soviet Union as a result many Russians moved in, so should we modify the borders again? IMO Russia remains dangerous because they are immature and desperate to be taken seriously, I don't have a problem with the latter if only they would address the former.

lhasa.two · ‎21-03-2014

@bankhaunter wrote:
The Falklands are populated with people who have no desire to be part of Argentina, it would be a different matter if they did but Argentina's actions have more or less guaranteed it will be a very long time before that's likely to happen.

Taken from Wiki...

A referendum on political status was held in the Falkland Islands on 10–11 March 2013. The Falkland Islands were asked whether or not they supported the continuation of their status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom in view of Argentina's call for negotiations on the Islands Sovereignty.

On a turnout of 92%, an overwhelming 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against. Had the islanders rejected the continuation of their current status, a second referendum on possible alternatives would have been held. Brad Smith, the leader of the international observer group, announced that the referendum was free and fair and executed in accordance with international standards and international laws.