A muslims response to the Charlie Hebdo attack

[paul4757]

The muslim mayor of Rotterdam response to the attack on Charlie Hebdo

and other terrorist attacks by muslim extremists.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/muslim-mayor-of-rotterdam-ahmed-aboutaleb-tells-extre...

[tommy.irene]

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@merehazle wrote:

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@tommy.irene wrote:

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Where and when was this?

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Birmingham..I will try and find the story for you.

[calibra101]

I hope that the recent barbaric events in Paris are the beginning of the end of the western world walking on eggshells around the Islamic faith. I for one have had enough of  ALL religions.

[malacandran]

I agree that religions are outdated, and should be replaced by Science. 

[tommy.irene]

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@malacandran wrote:

I agree that religions are outdated, and should be replaced by Science. 

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Goodone...Ha.Ha

[artwisemills]

I should just like to add that there are good and bad people in every religion and creed, colour, whatever. That goes really without saying - and we don't need someone to point out that the muslim guy who helped others survive at this supermarket is a number one guy!

HOWEVER please stop trying to tell us that these terrorists represent a very small minority when the actions of these people are becoming commonplace the world over! I watched the BBC Panorama report where the mullahs were preaching hatred in this country and filmed quite openly telling other muslims they should be following Islam in what we would regard more extremist ways! (watch the program). Any muslim who did not wish to do so - well they should be punished accordingly. So if they want their fellow muslims to behave so radically and yet the 'overwhelming majority' of muslims disagree with such a radical philosophy then its time they came out and showed their feelings! Possibly in a similar way the people of France did! NO EXCUSES - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!!

As for Tommy's photo of muslims in Birmingham? - remember the Trojan Horse scandal which the government deny was true, well I KNOW it was happening 20 years ago in a Birmingham school that no longer exists! The problem we have here is Governments are treading on eggshells because they are in fear of civil unrest - from this supposed 'minority' - JOKE!

[tommy.irene]

http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/IsllamReligionofPeace.htm

[tommy.irene]

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_2SIIIT-DFoC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=butcher+those+who+mock+islam&so...

[merehazle]

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@tommy.irene wrote:

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@merehazle wrote:

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@tommy.irene wrote:

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Where and when was this?

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Birmingham..I will try and find the story for you.

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Well...did our soft lot arrest them all on grounds of 'incitement to murder'? Come on tell me they did, and they are all serving at least 20 - years on HARD LABOUR.

One board says: 'EUROPE YOU'LL COME CRAWLING WHEN MUJAHIDEEN COME ROARING'  Where these the LIONS that came roaring in Paris to kill ''unarmed'' civilians and called themselves soldiers of Islam?

[electric*mayhem*band]

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@suzieseaside wrote:

And I suppose that although the majority are against terrorist killings, they still don't like any cartoons about Mohammed. 

It seems that we can criticise or poke fun about politics or other real life issues, but we must not say anything about religion where belief in a supernatural being has to be given a special protected status. I don't get it.

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Well said, Suzie.

'Satire is a genre of literature, and sometimes graphic and performing arts, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, corporations, government or society itself, into improvement'. (Wiki).

You can mock Gods, Prophets, Deities and Idols from all religions and faiths, but don't you dare ridicule 'The Chosen One'. The outcome of doing so could be pernicious and malevolent, resulting in one being stoned, beheaded, shot, or blown to shreds. If the result wasn't so tragic, the very idea of this would be risible.

Like you, I just don't get it.

[tommy.irene]

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Radicalized-Muslims-returning-to-Ireland-a-threat-says-imam.html .An imam in Ireland has warned that the Irish government and police do not have enough links in the Islamic community to monitor Muslim fighters returning from Syria and Iraq. Shaykh Dr Umar al-Qadri, imam of al-Mustafa Islamic Educational and Cultural Centre in Blanchardstown, Dublin, has said that to establish good relations with the Islamic community, Irish police should recruit Muslims of Middle Eastern extraction, the Irish Times reports. He said establishing such links would also be valuable as way to gather intelligence on radicalized Muslims. “Someone who may be reluctant to speak to a Garda, who is not a Muslim, about these issues – with a Muslim (garda) they may be more comfortable. It’s really important,” he said. “And all of those who have returned from Syria and Iraq after fighting; they should be definitely, definitely, definitely observed. “People who have gone to Iraq and Syria - they go with a particular ideology and belief: ‘We are fighting the West, we are fighting the non-believers and it is justified, we should be doing this and this is our duty’.

[cee-dee]

All this "insulting the prophet etc" is wearing a bit thin? Don't they think they're insulting our intelligence by spouting their nonsense?

If what they believe said that coal is White, I suppose they'd believe that and threaten dire consequences on anyone who said anything differently?

As to people "returning" from a source of radical fanaticism, rather than bothering gathering "intelligence", the best way out is to say "You went there, stay there, you're not coming back here".

[astrologica]

I second that Cee Dee..if they think that they could be a danger, and it's going to cost millions to keep an eye on them, then don't allow them back into the country. Or any country in Europe for that matter.

[tommy.irene]

Pope Francis has celebrated an outdoor Mass in front of unprecedented crowds in the Philippine capital Manila. Six million people attended the ceremony or lined the Papal route to Rizal Park, city officials estimate. That would be a record for a papal event. About five million welcomed Pope John Paul II in Manila in 1995. The Vatican said Pope Francis had dedicated the service in part to the victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which devastated the country in 2013. The Mass will be the Pope's final full day in the Philippines, where there are 80 million Catholics, concluding his six-day tour of Asia.

[evoman3957]

The Hypocrisy of their actions sum up their entire ethos, they are prepared to go and fight for an ideal and a group of people ( of a specific faith ) and die if need be. However, should they survive and Live; they don't want to Live under that very same wonderful ideal / regime that they purport to love and admire so much. No, they want to come back to their Western countries of birth; that allow them the freedoms, opportunities and tollerance to practice the opposite of what they preach.

[tommy.irene]

We're a secular country, according to national statistics. I don't want any form of religious preachings in schools, work, politics please. Atheists do not go out and fly planes into buildings, kill those who do not believe the same god/s. Christianity use to kill those who were not Christian Deuteronomy 17:12, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 (They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman) and many others. This is the god you follow? Keep it to yourself..

[calibra101]

Absolutely. Do not force ANY god on me. I have a basic human right not to believe in any stories. Going back to artwise sort of question. Why aren't the so called moderate Muslim community's on the streets and up in arms protesting against the radicals who supposedly make Islam look so bad????

[evoman3957]

Because, as I said earlier, if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem !! 

[artwisemills]

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@calibra101 wrote:

Absolutely. Do not force ANY god on me. I have a basic human right not to believe in fairy stories. Going back to artwise sort of question. Why aren't the so called moderate Muslim community's on the streets and up in arms protesting against the radicals who supposedly make Islam look so bad????

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Yes exactly.

If as we are constantly told, these are the actions of a 'small number' of radicals, why are the majority of 'peace loving' muslims not out demonstrating and objecting to having their religion hijacked and taken from them???

As I say time to stand up and be counted!

[evoman3957]

The you / you're, of course, meaning people or persons and not you personally. As the Muslim community don't DEMONSTRATE their support, they are therefore not part of the solution..................that then only leaves one conclusion to draw.

[calibra101]

Yep and I would edge my bets that the majority of Muslims believe Islam is the way forward...... whatever the cost.