Buyer asking for paypal invoice

[asfar7234]

Hi, I've listed an authentic Rolex watch for sale and had a buyer 'buy it now' without any questions asked which seems suspicious. If you were about to spend roughly £5k on a watch surely you'd ask me something.

Anyway that aside they are asking me to log into paypal and send them an invoice? Should I trust them or is this some kind of scam? They seem to have feedback as a buyer for 6 other items.

Thanks!

[john1297576]

OMG a scammers paradise. A £5000 watch you propose to post by a postal method for items up to £50. (Second Class signed For)

Even Special Delivery only covers up to £2500. Don't you realise that scammers look for signs of inexperience, if lost or damaged you have to refund the buyer, but do you really think you would get any compensation from Royal Mail.

You would do best to list as Collection only and CASH PAYMENT preferred, as a paypal payment can easily be claimed back by a buyer by claiming not received and you end up with nothing.

If you don't protect yourself then no one else will.

[asfar7234]

Hi thanks for the advice, appreciate the response! 🙂

Obviously I realise that hence I have come to this board for some advice. I won't be sending out the watch or taking the transaction any further!

[rusticrye]

I'm relieved to hear it...!

Before you list anything else, get yourself a Royal Mail price guide (from any Post Office, or download one from royalmail.com) so that you know what you're doing in future. Unless you buy the correct postal service, ie. one to fully cover the item's value, Royal Mail (or any carrier) won't pay out a single penny in the event of loss or damage in transit, but you will have to refund the buyer in full. Be aware too that not everything is insurable - all carriers have exclusion lists, so always check before listing anything that isn't for personal collection only. 🙂

@asfar7234

[*knight-rider*]

SCAM!

they then send you a fake email that looks like they`ve paid, but have`nt, you post the item then when you log into paypal, you find out you have no money and your item is on the way to the scammer.

My advice, do not sell that watch on here, but if you do, list as collection only for cash on collection 🙂

[asfar7234]

Thanks for the response mate, appreciate it. Very helpful! Seemed suspicious! 🙂

[1956glyn]

Hi

This is the start of a SCAM

As they have purchased the item all they need to do is pay for it through the listing.   Basically click on pay for it.

Do NOT send them your Paypal details.    The way the scam works is.......you send them your Paypal details through a message and they send you a FAKE but very real looking Paypal notification that you have been paid when you have NOT.   

Unfortunately scammers look for inexperienced new selling members like you  😞    

One thing that will draw a scammer to your expensive listings are..............you have the wrong postage on your watch.   It MUST be sent by Next Day Special Delivery and you must check out Royal Mails site regarding posting very expensive items to make sure you are covered should it get lost or damaged in the post.   Sending it just be Royal mail signed for will not protect you.   Royal Mail will probably refuse to compensate you because they will say...sorry you sent it by the wrong postal method:(

Just ignore this buyer......and if they do not pay through the listing within 2 days open an unpaid case in the Resolution Centre at the bottom of the page.    Follow all the instructions carefully and close the case on day 5.     Doing this means that you will get your Ebay fees refunded.

Also add this Buyer to your blocked bidder list.    If you do not know how to do this then go to the help and contact tab at the top of the page and search block a bidder and all the info and link will come up.

Do not trust any buyer that says......i need your Paypal details because i am having trouble with my own paypal account.

Also BEFORE you even think about posting that watch you MUST sign into your actual Paypal account and check that the payment is there and the actual status of the payment and look to see if Paypal tell you its ok to post.

Scammers often try to take advantage of new members inexperience........by sending them a fake notification...hoping they will just post the item without checking in their own Paypal account.    Unfortunately this does sometimes work and a seller ends up with no watch....no money and the scammer is long gone.

Well done you for coming to the boards for advice.    Oh i forgot.....you must only send the watch to the address given to you on Paypal check out otherwise you will lose what little seller protection you have on Ebay.    Do NOT believe a buyer if they say something like....please send the item to Nigeria as its a present for a relative.    Again this is all part of a well known scam on Ebay.

Sorry for the long post but you MUST try and protect yourself on Ebay as much as you can .

[asfar7234]

Hello, thank you for all the advice! Appreciate you taking the time to respond! Very helpful and will not be sending the watch out or taking this transaction any further!

🙂

[1956glyn]

If ever you are in doubt or have a gut feeling about something....please come back to the boards for advice before you do anything. There is usually someone around to try and help you.

[arkwebus]

@rusticrye 

I always believed what you say about getting nothing back from RM if you get the wrong postage but it seems that - all this time - my understanding is wrong.  I have a recent letter from RM which says that if you use "signed for" for an item worth £5000 and it goes missing then [to add insult to injury perhaps] you do get the £50 and a few stamps

[rusticrye]

Really? That's the first I've heard of this. I've never once heard of Royal Mail paying out a single sous when the wrong service was bought. All that the sellers have ever got in compensation was a few stamps (if they were lucky!).

[arkwebus]

@rusticrye

Yep that's what I thought but I misaprehended! Customer service in Plymouth!