NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"The other thing you have too realise, some of the "different" accounts posting on here, are actually the same people..... And they think you don't realise....!"

I've no idea who these people are!  Do they post the same views from each account, or are they Jekyll/Hyde-ish and post opposing views depending on which account they're in at the time?!

[grapecr-30]

Strangely enough.....they are in pretty much full agreement with each other....

[nursediesel]

That never occurred to me honestly. Touche!

[crn303]

We know who they are …. even contradicting themselves and a desire to go off the comment tracking of the initial thread.

Yes, funny at times but always pathetic.

[nursediesel]

I can only speak from my experience and can say with %100 certainty that "the-pale-horse" and "magpiecorner1 " are the same person as they responded to a running conversation we were having and accidently answered with the wrong account.  

[vinylscot]

I'd love to know if you're including me in your crackpot theorising! The sensible people in these threads don't need to resort to multiple identities, as other sensible people will agree with them or back them up (of course, it can happen accidentally, as pointed out). That sort of behaviour is more typical of the disrupters, those who know full well that they are posting unadulterated nonsense, and they won't get agreement otherwise.

Three of the most recent posters on this thread are the biggest wind-up merchants on the boards at the moment. Those with any more than a few brain cells can recognise the worthlessness of their puerile, childish "contributions".

[grapecr-30]

No ....I wasn't including you in "my crackpot theories"...... 

And as for(I presume you are including me) as being a "wind up merchant"..... I have always tried to be respectful and sensible with my comments on this and other threads..... And take responsibility for anything I may say that I have got wrong..... Infact a while back I used the word "erase" in one of my comments when talking about keeping this thread open, and you rightfully took issue with me using the word..... and I replied to you immediately and apologised and said I was sorry for causing any confusion, and I noticed you just completely ignored my apology..... Which in all honesty I found a bit childish..... It seemed like you liked to take issue with comments,and if people like myself apologised to you ,you didn't have the decency to accept the apology and move on..... As for OTHER people posting on here, being the same person but using 2 accounts,that is definitely true.....and as you keep reminding everyone how intelligent you are, I will leave you to work it out who that is....!

[vinylscot]

I definitely wouldn't put you in the same class as some of the other posters. As regards not acknowledging your earlier apology  I do apologise for that. There are times when I simply am not up for the fight,  so I just stay away. I should probably do so more often.

[grapecr-30]

Thank you.....

[veryprint]

I have followed this thread from virtually day one. It seems as if the bulk of replies are not about Simple Delivery but are just people posting and going off on a different tangent or criticising other contributor’s comments. I have pulled my items as I am completely confused as the items I sell cannot have an exact postage option attached to them until they have been purchased.  I cannot calculate weight, size of package or amount that the items will sell for till after the event. I combine postage costs where I can to give the buyer the best value for money. I prefer a tracked package both for the buyers and my own peace of mind. Royal Mail gives me the insurance I need and if the value is higher I can add a higher ceiling by paying more. That is my choice and should remain and not be governed by Ebay. Most of my items are auction and not buy it now. They are collectibles some weighing very little for single items but sometimes weighing quite a bit more if sold as groups. I don’t want to use Evri with the risk they are just left on a doorstep in clear view. I list with the the best estimated price for postage and hope I get it close to what it will cost me. It is impossible for Ebay to do this on my behalf. It needs to remain in my hands. There are now too many hoops to jump through and the word SIMPLE now appears to have a new meaning. Until something changes I can no longer sell on EBay!

[moonlight-rhapsody]

You must mean me then, but I'm not aware that I've ever deliberately set out to wind anyone up.  I know we don't always agree, but if I disagree with you, do you see that as "winding you up"?  I just see it as a divergence of opinion.  I'm sorry if you see it otherwise.

[jonatjonatjonat]

It seems as if the bulk of replies are not about Simple Delivery but are just people posting and going off on a different tangent or criticising other contributor’s comments
Welcome to the Internet, take a look around...

as the items I sell cannot have an exact postage option attached to them until they have been purchased

Surely - this would have caused you issues even without Simple Delivery? You've always had to have a decent idea in mind what to charge for postage.

I prefer a tracked package both for the buyers and my own peace of mind

If you are only using Royal Mail, it would have been Tracked 48

I don’t want to use Evri
You can select to not use Evri with Simple Delivery, just Royal Mail

I list with the the best estimated price for postage and hope I get it close to what it will cost me

In effect, Simple Delivery would actually be BETTER for you - because ebay are estimating the postage costs based on the listing and if its wrong - you don't need to pay anymore - the post office is supposed to take your parcel irregardless of if the weight is incorrect!

[grapecr-30]

He could of been using 

Royal Mail 

Tracked 24 without Signature 

Tracked 48 without Signature 

Tracked 24 with Signature

Tracked 48 with Signature 

Signed For Delivery 2nd Class

Signed For Delivery 1st Class

Or Royal Mail Special Delivery 

Royal Mail Guaranteed Next Day Delivery 

The point is, I also knew exactly what it would cost me to send an item before Simple Delivery and could account for it...

For instance, I might send a CD or DVD or a Book that I knew needed extra packaging and would take it up into the Small Parcel category, and I could account for this.... But eBay's Simple Delivery will not account for this, it will just class it as a Large Letter, because it is unable to realise it needs extra packaging so it can safely be delivered undamaged...

[grapecr-30]

And yes....the post office is supposed to take your package regardless.... But in practice,this is not the case all the time....

[grapecr-30]

Not only are there too many potential problems sending an item with Simple Delivery, I also don't trust eBay to help me sort problems out if the item is lost or damaged..... No disrespect to the eBay Agents, but in my experience of speaking to them(that's if you are fortunate enough to work out how to get one on the phone),you could speak to 2 or 3 or 4 of them and get a different answer from each of them to the same question..... And have been a definite answer many times from Agents,that turn out not too be true.....and once you hang up the phone, you are back in the same position and then having to go through a slow frustrating process to get another one on the phone to give you an incorrect answer to your question.... So I am pretty sure Simple Delivery is going to be a nightmare to discuss with them....

[pra29]

"the post office is supposed to take your package regardless..."

That bit of news has not filtered down to my village sub- Post Office.  If they say postage is insufficient or too large, them it doesn't go.  End of.  I've a feeling that any 'under payment' is traced back to the PO and black marks awarded.

[grapecr-30]

I was referring to someone else's comment about ...

"The Post Office is supposed to take your package regardless"

And my answer was....

"But in practice,that is not the case all of the time"....

[wiganyankeeron]

Exactly. My local post office is located in a small Supermarket which is
manned at various times by different counter people. None of them "Sing off
the same Hymn Sheet" To be honest, being behind the Post Office counter,
appears to be more of a hindrance to them. Every time I go in, with anything
other than an ordinary letter, They have to shout other people over..

RON,

[theelench]

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@grapecr-30 wrote:

Not only are there too many potential problems sending an item with Simple Delivery, I also don't trust eBay to help me sort problems out if the item is lost or damaged..... 

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I haven't replied to this thread since back near the beginning, simply because I don't intend to use it.   Especially as it doesn't seem that ebay has done anything to clear up the ambiguity around its claim when it first announced SD that once an item entered the SD system ebay would fully cover the seller if the item was lost or damaged right up to delivery.

If ebay is indeed going to do that it's an improvement on the T&Cs of my preferred carrier (RM) which will compensate in some (few) cases for lost parcels but will never compensate for damage to glass.  At least I know where I stand, as RM has never lost one of my parcels and I've always packed carefully enough that between us no parcel has ever suffered damaged contents, because I understand exactly where I stand.

Now, with SD in its present form I can neither be sure that ebay will compensate for lost items, but still seems to be saying (by not saying anything different from its original marketing blurb) that it will compensate for damage.  It has also introduced the possibility that although I could delete evri as a carrier, ebay can still decide that I have to buy an evri label and entrust my glass items to them. 

So now the carrier and what will or will not be covered by SD compensation are all unclear, which to me, is not an improvement at all.  Personally, until ebay publishes in black and white it's T&Cs in full, complete with its full list of exclusions for compensation purposes, it would be madness to entrust anything that is on either RM or evri's list of excluded or restricted lists.

[j.p.greenwood]

and just to add....

Also states, who you're buying the service from E-Bay themselves or E-Bay acting as an agent for the couriers, and who is responsible for the recompense of a claim, again E-Bay themselves or E-Bay are acting as an agent for the couriers. 

While his seems like it's an unimportant detail, the reality is it's a crucially important detail from a legal viewpoint, as who can you claim against if you end up badly wronged and E-Bay and the Courier both start playing the '...take it up with them.....' buck passing game.

When it comes to legal niceties, the devil is absolutely in the detail.