NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[toomanyparrots4]

Evri works for me, so if you have a problem it must be your fault.  Why are you unable to interact with a courier?

Why use them anyway since RM are far cheaper 95% of the time?

My motive is to understand why you guys have such a hard time performing a simple operation.

Change to business seller, or charge more to the buyer (everyone is in the same boat), or sell elsewhere.  No  need to moan about it.  Learn how to run a business and add up costs.

[punzel9072]

And as a registered business seller you can say hello to HMRC who will require you to supply a tax return so they can tax you on any income earned.
Private sellers are not classed as traders.

[toomanyparrots4]

Looks fine to me.  Stops *bleep* sellers not getting round to posting things, putting the wrong postage on etc.  And as a seller, you still just subtract the cost Ebay takes from your selling price and that's your takings.

[toomanyparrots4]

Then they shouldn't be allowed to, signed for is damn inconvenient.  Anything arrives here signed for and it's not delivered to my property while I'm out, I treat it as not arrived.  It goes back to the seller and it's their problem.  I pay to get the item HERE, not at the nearest collection point.

[nursediesel]

So you want all ebay sellers to get a TIN, bank account in the business name and business registration certificates when ebay wants to verify your business account just so they can sell items on ebay? You cant be serious.

[toomanyparrots4]

Ebay are a business, they take in money somewhere, fees, postage, whatever.  Selling price = what you bought the item for + what Ebay takes + your profit.  Get a calculator.

[toomanyparrots4]

I've been a business seller for about 10 years.  Never had HMRC touch me.  Registering as a business on ebay is not the same thing as registering as a business with HMRC.  Do you really think HMRC care what Ebay call you?  If you make a huge profit selling as an Ebay private seller, HMRC still want tax, you change nothing by telling Ebay you're a business.  It's just a different tier of fees and nothing else.

[toomanyparrots4]

Never heard of all that, I just clicked "change me to business seller".  No idea why you've stayed private all this time, the fees are far higher.  When I sold computers I dropped £50 off the fees of each one!

[nursediesel]

I am glad you are not my accountant or I would be homeless! The stuff you are now starting to reply with is almost comical and really perplexing as you dont seem to see any problems with what is being said in this thread and all the others.

[the_book_seekers]

No idea why you've stayed private all this time, the fees are far higher. 

You can't have sold anything recently -  Fee free selling for private accounts has changed that. 

[punzel9072]

You previously said "No problem, I just rearrange delivery online and chances are I get a more sensible postman."
Then you say "Anything arrives here signed for and it's not delivered to my property while I'm out, I treat it as not arrived.  It goes back to the seller and it's their problem."
Make your mind up. 

You also said: "I've been a business seller for about 10 years.  Never had HMRC touch me.  Registering as a business on ebay is not the same thing as registering as a business with HMRC.  Do you really think HMRC care what Ebay call you?  If you make a huge profit selling as an Ebay private seller, HMRC still want tax, you change nothing by telling Ebay you're a business.  It's just a different tier of fees and nothing else.

You don't have to register with HMRC as a business, eBay will notify HMRC of your sales and HMRC will decide. If you are registered on eBay as a business, you can't then say to HMRC that you're not trading when you obviously are.

Still, you haven't used eBay for about six months so I suggest you keep it that way and stay out of this eBay discussion that you obviously know nothing about. I'm glad I don't buy from your business.

[honeymonster007]

There are no fees as a pvt seller...no listing fees unless you go over your listing limit for a month. No fvf fees.....nothing at all.

[gmij1961]

So  what's you point or purpose here ?  It doesn't look you have bought or sold anything on Ebay  for the last 12 months .  

I post here  for the specific reason as a result of simple delivery  etc I am not longer prepared to sell on Ebay . 

Please feel free to keep posting  as for me the more posts the better 

[sunflowers4me59]

Private sellers stay private sellers because that's what they are! They sell what they've got hanging around their attic etc. They do it in their little bits of spare time. Another problem with the new Ebay is we have to post within 2 days, (or get a defect), not in our own time when it fits in our lives, and before you moan about that as well, Ebay did give us a drop down arrow to choose how many days we could take to post, which buyers knew! We only sell when it fits into our private lives, not as businesses who need to do it for a living.

[toomanyparrots4]

What part of the simple business equation don't you understand?  Profit = income - expenses.  And rule 1: never ever use an accountant.  A human calculator just adds another expense.  I don't pay someone to wash my face in the morning either, or for any of the other very simple things in life.

To sell on Ebay, you buy the materials as cheap as you can, sell it as high as buyers will pay, and try to minimise expenses.  If that makes a profit, good.  If not, change to another line of products.

[sunflowers4me59]

Ahh, Exactly, business sellers Buy stock to sell for much more, private sellers sell stuff they want to get rid of around the house. Private sellers aren't allowed to buy to sell!!

[nursediesel]

What are you even talking about? You have been arguing facts that are completely false!  You argued the shipping fees are the same and they are not and said nothing when multiple people stated that was false. You stated we could just post ourselves which we cant unless we pay double for shipping as multiple people explained to you and you said nothing. You stated to make your account a business account and multiple people stated ebay now wants bank accounts, documents and tin all in the companies name to convert to a business account and you said nothing. You keep coming up with more bizarre statements trying to make this ebay fiasco smell like a bed of roses to sellers but refuse to acknowledge that almost every statement you made has been wrong and you keep going. Its baffling.

[*devils.advocate*]

A business operating as a Private Seller is a big no no.

But, sadly, there are quite a number of these chancers operating on eBay.

Equally, for a Private Seller to masquerade as a Business Seller is just as much a no no.

To encourage that?

Tut, tut.

[toomanyparrots4]

No, I'm registered as self employed, Ebay is one of the things I use to make money.  The HMRC trust me to fill in income and expenses.   I don't have to put in everything sold on Ebay if it's personal.   I don't even have to put in any details.  Just income, and expenses.  Just rough ideas.   They occasionally check up on people - they checked on one of my neighbours who's a tradesman, that's only once in the 50 years he traded for.  He uses shoe box accounting - he crams every receipt into a shoe box and doesn't keep records of anything, when the tax man came round he handed the taxman the boxes and said you do it.  The taxman spent four hours going through it, couldn't find a problem, and went away.  Of course a lot of things didn't have receipts, were paid for in cash, money went to a friend's account etc 🙂

[honeymonster007]

There's an old saying that goes along the lines of *someone will only tell you what they want you to hear*