03-01-2025 11:53 AM
I'm a private seller. Items I sell are between £2.90 - £10. Is It just me or will ebay's new Buyers' protection fee from the 4th Feb make it near impossible to sell competitively. A few months ago Ebay got rid of Sellers' fees for private sellers, which was a welcome move. But this new change and getting rid of multi-buy discount for private sellers will make it worse than it was with the original fees.
01-03-2025 10:02 AM
Care to expand on that thought process?
I was under the impression that BPF hit all private sellers equally, fake or not.
01-03-2025 10:05 AM
@andha-21 wrote:Care to expand on that thought process?
I was under the impression that BPF hit all private sellers equally, fake or not.
Yes it does but buyers should not be having to pay it from sellers who are quite obviously business sellers. If they were properly registered then the fees would not be added.
01-03-2025 10:17 AM
01-03-2025 12:18 PM
"A business selling an item for 19.95 or a private seller selling for 18.46 plus bpf of 1.49 is both same." - No it is not. The business seller pays for the listing, either individually or through a shop subscription, the business seller then pays Final Value Fees on that sale, and to top it off the majority of businesses (those not VAT registered) then have to pay VAT levied on those fees. The private seller pays none of those.
On your example the private seller receives £18.46; the business seller in the category I sell in would receive £16.40, before any adjustments for potential tax owed on any profit.
Good luck to any genuine private seller, they are not a problem to business sellers, however maybe you can no see why business sellers have no time for those trading illegally under a private selling status.
01-03-2025 2:44 PM
That's fair enough, but let's bear in mind that business sellers will have got the stuff cheap/cheapish in the first place, whereas genuine private sellers are generally trying to get as much back as they can on items they originally paid retail money for.
With the old system, I could list, say, a camera filter I haven't used (another of my sadly failed hobbies) for a quid less than a business seller, while utilising an 80% off fees offer. It might briefly cost him one sale, but I've only got one, so now I'm out of his hair and he's all good. With the new system, there are no selling offers, and private sellers have to discount every price by the cost of seller protection in order to compete with business sellers, on top of the hassle of doing the maths.
That's not your fault, and I appreciate your argument, but I'd like to see ebay directing their energy at more deserving targets, whether it be business sellers pretending to be private, or people flogging fakes. Take the camera filter for example, I've got a hard time getting half of what it cost, simply because ebay is full of Chinese fakes driving the price down. Stuff like that hurts all of us.
01-03-2025 2:58 PM
01-03-2025 3:02 PM - edited 01-03-2025 3:04 PM
Businesses are trying to make a living, genuine private sellers are just getting rid of unwanted personal possessions. Whatever they get for them is a positive outcome.
Business sellers are not being shafted by the odd private seller getting rid of an old camera lens, they are being shafted by all the pseudo private sellers selling new camera lenses in quantities, and undercutting them.
Genuine private sellers don't have to do maths, or work out acceptable prices, they can just list.
01-03-2025 4:13 PM
01-03-2025 4:14 PM
@23sandlane wrote:
I was under the impression that business sellers on the basic £19.99 per
month rate can list 300 items per month free of charge.
How is it free of charge when they pay £19.99 for the privilege?
01-03-2025 4:21 PM
01-03-2025 4:32 PM
There is no BPF for business sellers. Its not free if they are paying £19.99, plus they have final value fees to pay when they sell. Then they pay tax on top of that.
01-03-2025 4:32 PM
is that if you have a shop papso or is it for all sellers registered as a business seller
01-03-2025 4:36 PM
01-03-2025 4:36 PM
The basic business shop is £27 + Vat or £32.40. It just means that 300 BINs and 100 auctions cost roughly
9p each rather than the 36p per listing without a shop. Anything over these limits are charged at 12p (BINs) or 18p (Auctions). Cheaper but not free.
01-03-2025 4:39 PM
@23sandlane wrote:
I quote from Ebay - "Buyer Protection is free for buyers purchasing from
business sellers on eBay. This protection is included in the item price,
and there are no additional fees at checkout"
What is the point you are making with that quote?
01-03-2025 4:44 PM
01-03-2025 4:49 PM
01-03-2025 5:20 PM
thanks i was under the impression it would cost me £19.99 to be a b/s
excuse the question im new to b/s
01-03-2025 5:21 PM - edited 01-03-2025 5:24 PM
01-03-2025 5:22 PM
@23sandlane wrote:
I quote from Ebay - "Buyer Protection is free for buyers purchasing from
business sellers on eBay. This protection is included in the item price,
and there are no additional fees at checkout"
I apologise for misunderstanding the comment.