EBay it’s the end for private sellers.

[baddie74]

Well finally after changing the format of their selling platform it seems every couple of weeks you have come up with the ultimate level of stupidity with this latest total ridiculous set of changes. Nobody is going to wait what could be weeks to be paid for a item they have sold who ever dreamt up this idea much be so far from reality as needing to push every part time seller off the site. I knew when they came up with the idea of free selling it wouldn’t be long before the idiots that run eBay came up with totally and ridiculous idea to claw back the money they have lost the whole senior management team at EBay must seat round a table all wearing clown costumes saying what is the most stupid idea we can come with to really get rid of half of our customers and the biggest clown wins with this idea and all the other yes people follow. Well I had started selling a few bits again but never again and will not be using EBay again to sell anything it has become a total joke of a company I hope your poor and flawed decisions finally catch up with this once great place to buy and sell has become a total joke.

[crafty_cat_lover]

I'm really glad I'm somebody as I still use Ebay and so do people who've bought from me - 39 orders in the past 3 months.

I don't sell or buy clothes on Ebay so really can't comment on that but I guess it reallly is down to what you're selling. If it's what buyers are looking for and at a price they are willing to pay then it will sell despite all the changes to the way Ebay work.

[jere-nott]

Well said. Business sellers pay 36p listing fee and a FVF.  Private sellers pay nothing.

If private sellers had any sense they should offer to pay the Buyers fees. There is a facility in invoicing to offer the discount.

It's quite easy. If something sells for £10 the buyers fee added would be £11.15 (75p + 4%). Just send an invoice with the £1.15 discount (someone may correct my arithmetic).

Business sellers (like me) pay the eBay fees without moaning and, in addition, have to register with HMRC for tax purposes. 

[jasonenigma23]

People are rightfully moaning that they will be sending out goods that will not be paid for until the buyer has A-confirmed receipt, and B-decided they are happy! This is not how ANY OTHER purchasing model anywhere works!



I don’t buy something online then only pay after it has been delivered! That is ludicrous.

[oldgeezer3345]

Well said!!!

[papso22]

The buyer has paid ebay before the seller sends the item out.  

There is no element of the buyer 'deciding they are happy' in the payment process.

[jonatjonatjonat]

This is not how ANY OTHER purchasing model anywhere works!

Except for Vinted and Amazon and TikTok Shop and....

[vintique*violet]

The buyer has paid ebay before the seller send the item out.  

There is no element of the buyer 'deciding they are happy' in the payment process.

Actually there is because ebay are holding onto funds until " considered successfully delivered" and if that item is not delivered ( which is the postal couriers paid for service to actually ensure delivery and now with SD eBay are part of that arrangement)  or the buyer opens a claim - they are not happy -  eBay will continue to hold those funds until the buyer is happy! No consideration to the seller, which it is still their item under " ownership" as stated in eBays terms and conditions, until they have received payment for it... So in all intent and purposes, private sellers now have to " bow down" and " jump through hoops" without payment until their buyer is singing " hallelujah" ... 

Question - is eBay a financial institution? 

[kath3735_wxmjn]

Sorry must have phrased that badly, not getting at you at all.  Just that your 'worst culprit' has already made comments about the feedback of at least two of us  that have had the temerity to disagree with them!  Obviously do not realise that feedback is not just a score but should be looked at as to  what it is, ie what is the neg about, how was it responded to and compared to the positives.  I actually agree with you and i am a private seller but can see how some pseudo ones are playing it.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

It is all relative, in december my first sale was on the 28th!  Jan and Feb have been really good, miles better than last year.  I really do think it depends on what you are selling.   As for your wife, she is obviously mistaken as it is pretty obvious that people are still using E Bay, figures may be down but the buyers are still out there.  I have just had the postie visit with another parcel for me for items i have just bought from here.

[papso22]

Yes, in some circumstances if an untracked item has a case opened against the seller before the 14 days are up, then the payment will be held and only released if the seller wins the case (which presumably makes the buyer unhappy, not happy)

However, I took the poster to be saying that there was a process by which the buyer made a positive affirmation that they were happy, before the payment was released, which is not the case.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

i do sell clothes and the past two months have been good, particularly Feb.  A certain amount is probably because before christmas a couple of my relatives had a clean out (again, those compulsive shoppers!) and i wanted to get it listed before SD so i have a lot more on than i usually do.  I find though (from my own wants) that many people are looking for specifics of stuff they have already had but maybe in bigger sizes (that is me again!) or a different colour.  I love a certain Roman top and ended up buying 23, all in different colours, now because i have grown and they have not i have sold most of them and am looking for the size larger because i still love them.   If it is new clothing why would anyone bother when you could go into the shops/online and get the item probably the same price? 

[jasonenigma23]

Exactly. And why I personally am done with eBay for anything other than very low value items, whereas dot the last 25 years I have sold high value personal items such as MacBooks, iPhones, high end laptops, very expensive movie memorabilia, etc, etc. they will now get NONE of that commission due to their new anti private seller rules. Maybe they have run the numbers and it works for them to lose a whole swathe of sellers like me… or maybe idiots are in charge.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

so why is that any worse than the buyer getting the item and putting in a INAD claim in the past, they still get their money refunded and the seller ends up with nothing!

[kath3735_wxmjn]

must have let that one bypass me, now i will have to go looking.....     Thank you for the PM advice, will be following it!

[*devils.advocate*]

is eBay a financial institution?

Could be given the recent behaviour of the participants!

[jasonenigma23]

Because I genuinely think it will encourage MORE dubious claims than previously.  You may feel otherwise of course, since believe as I do and some as you do. Only time will tell and we’ll never be told, it’ll be discussed in boardrooms that we’ll never know about.

 But it didn’t really matter who is right.

 For example: you are happy with the change and I will stay, I am not so I will no longer sell. Whether you or I are correct does not matter, the end result is still a 50% loss of seller commissions to eBay! No multiply that by 1000 sellers. Then 10,000 sellers.

 Regardless of whether it will have the feared impact or not, this change in terms is alienating a significant number of previously willing sellers. And that will affect eBay commissions. As I said, they may well have gamed the numbers and still feel the change is worth it.

[papso22]

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@*devils.advocate* wrote:

is eBay a financial institution?

Could be given the recent behaviour of the participants!

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They are a financial institution for certain functions because you can complain to the FOS.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/getting-paid/file-complaint-ebay-commerce-uk-limited-payments-cr...

[*devils.advocate*]

It was a little attempt at humour - something sadly lacking on the Boards.

I obviously failed - I apologise.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

I have NEVER said anywhere on these posts that i am happy with the changes!   I do not like them but always said i would give them a try.  Just like managed payments, i was not looking forward to those but i have never had a problem with them.   I have nothing to lose by leaving my items on here, they are not going anywhere (at least until the car boot starts next month), i have not messed around with my prices, i put them on at what i would like for them, reduce some as and when i decide (i usually put on a bit more initially for some items) and do not waste my time trying to round figures up or down.  If the buyer sees my item for £10.46 and it is what they want then that is what they will pay for it.   It is costing me nothing to keep on using the site.   Now SD is another matter.  I have used RM and my local post office for years and never had a problem.  If i cannot use it and in a manner i want to then teddy is out of the cot and i am off.

[albert-jackson]

That's the point I appreciated a payment was pending to me.
In browsing Ebay I found what I was interested in and thought I have funds
in Ebay to pay for it, when I checked there was only a meagre amount left
from a previous sale.
This is what prompted me to post in the 'Community' pages which made me
aware also following a call to Ebay, that by the way had the Ebay agent
informing me that my 20 year 100% record could be downgraded if I followed
through and decided to refund a pending payment as I was unhappy finding
out I would not be paid until Ebay received the green light from the
purchaser..... Ebays blackmail attempt methinks.
AJ.