manchester dogs home

[ginap.123]

Terrible news about the fire at Manchester dogs home. Scores of poor dogs & puppies dead. Teenager arrested on suspicion of arson.

[chickengrandma-2008]

It's all very good of people but I think they'll be so inundated with stuff they won't know where to put it all, but I suppose they'll give it to other dogs homes across the country.

It's a pity people don't give without there being a tragedy. 

Of course I'm not knocking those that are donating now, ....just saying like.

[ed_blackadder_1]

Agree CG however I don't think people give it another thought normally with their busy lives. We sponsor 3 dogs with the dogs trust and have done for years. Only the other day we had an email from dogs trust asking for blankets and toys so I am sure they will accept anything not needed. Along with blue cross rspca and all animal charities.

[harrydog10]

I wish I knew what on earth would make someone do such an evil thing. For the life of me I cannot see what enjoyment you would get by killing innocent animals

[chickengrandma-2008]

I think, in a way, I hope the person DIDN'T think of the outcome and did it from stupidity.  I hate to think that a person could do this AFTER thinking about it.  It's just too awful to contemplate that scenario!  

[harrydog10]

I know its beyond madness.  I wonder if this was some sort of dare that went horribly wrong.You know young kids that are daring each other to do stupid things .or maybe they were drunk or under the influence of some sort of drug. I find it hard to think that someone would just think 'oh I'll just go and set fire to the dogs home'.  

[carolyorkie2010]

Just sent a donation by text; I truly hate anything like this. If it was up to me I know what I would do to the "person(?) responsible.

[harrydog10]

Oh me too, lets put it this way, he certainly wouldn't be walking straight.

[saasher2012]

If it is this young person, he should be made to go in & made to remove all the dead animals he has killed with this stupid thoughtless
Act of his, perhaps if he did it might sink in as to what he's done!. But of course once again it will be blamed on his upbringing, at 14/ 15yrs old he is old enough to know right from wrong, no matter what circumstances he was brought up in!.

[ed_blackadder_1]

Well said Sandra

[fishpieface]

It's not about upbringing though - as some of you may know, we've had terrible troubles with our eldest son.

We adopted him when he was almost seven, we taught him, to the very best of our ability, what was right

and what wasn't.  We gave him love, stability and all we could (not all he wanted, but all we could).  Same

for our youngest.  Eldest was, and still is, always in trouble, mixing with the wrong people, doing stuff he

shouldn't (nothing as evil as this though, thank heavens).  Youngest, no trouble whatsoever from him.

We've been blamed by people who don't know us.  One Magistrate was very quick to put one person right

when they blamed us - he said it was not xxxxx's parents' fault, they have no history whatsoever of wrong-doing,

all they've given and taught him has been right, stability, love and right.  He knows right from wrong and is

capable of deciding whether doing something is right or wrong and he chooses persistently to offend."

We, and others, both professional and otherwise, have tried everything to get him to stop getting into trouble -

he chooses not to.  We are very saddened by this and can only hope that one day he will see sense.

All that said, we know that he would never do anything like what happened last night in Manchester.  My

heart goes out to all those poor animals, all the people involved - and I hope whoever did this is brought to

justice.  I'm guessing there won't be much consequence for him, if it is the young lad.  That isn't right.

But we cannot always blame the parents (I agree though that in some circumstances we certainly can!).

Sorry to digress from this sad thread - back to it now.

[ed_blackadder_1]

I wouldn't blame the parents it is the times we live in and if a child decides to take the wrong path then that is their choice however there do need to be consequences and so often it is a slap on the wrist.

[harrydog10]

 I think its who can be 'the big I am', who is prepared to do the stupidist act to prove just how hard and clever they are,(or think they are) just to be  number one in the gang.  With no thought of what happens if it gets out of hand who gets hurt or what damage they do.  I know when I was that age we would have got a clout around the ear from the local Policeman and then taken to our parents to suffer the consequences. I would have been scared silly. Unfortunately, today they just don't seem scared of anything or anyone. (no offence Fishie).

[saasher2012]

I totally agree with all you say, my point was, there always seems to be a get out clause with these do gooders , they are always finding an excuse for wrong doing & the parents are an easy target!.

[bitsnknots]

I totally agree with what has been said above.

We've just been watching about the fire on the BBC local news and £1 million has now been raised over what happened in Manchester last night which is good.

[harrydog10]

Exactly, the get out clause is Blame the parents, after all it must be their fault. Who else is a fault. The trouble is the punishments given just don't seem to match the crime anymore. Getting arrested, going to court, seems to be like a badge of honour.  I don't know if youth detention, prison or wherever else they put them is just like a holiday camp. They have TV;s games consoles, music and everything else. Where is the punishment in that. Maybe they should go back to a cell locked in for 23 hours a day and nothing else..

[saasher2012]

I don't think even that would work to be honest , they would pick up even more ways to steal, vandalise etc, I do think though if these do gooders as I call them stopped making excuses for them & got down to really giving em a fright of what's in store for the rest of their lives if they continue along this self destructive pathway might be a better way, but in these days of being in fear of giving your child a good clout in case they not only clout you back or have you arrested as well. ???????!!!!!!!!!.

[ed_blackadder_1]

When I was young I wouldn't have dreamt of behaving badly for fear of my parents finding out. Also we lived in fear of getting in trouble with the police. I don't think kids of today have that fear any more. Its more like you are somebody if you do get in trouble.

[saasher2012]

There is a lot of truth in what you say Ed! Unfortunately !

[ginap.123]

Same here, at my daughters but will drop all the blankets from my mums in on monday. Only washed & wrapped for storage last week.

[carolyorkie2010]

All I can add is that I am glad I am the age I am (59) and not just starting out in this cruel world! Goodness knows what it will be like when such as my great Niece grows up (she's only 2) and what will it be like for her children? So glad people are rallying round and donating what they can for these poor animals. Sending a big thank you to everyone involved in the rescue operation.