09-04-2009 9:06 AM
04-05-2011 2:21 AM
I've just reformatted the drive to Ext3 with EaseUS - it took about one-and-a-half hours 😮
Last time I tried exporting I couldn't play anything afterwards until I did a first-time install on the box X-(
I've been with the AVForums theads since their birth and have been searching them today; have made a minuscule contribtution to the blog. No-one's very forthcoming on exporting *sulk*.
I'm need to watch something that I won't want to keep and then experiment with it - don't know if exported recordings are retained on the original drive for manual delete, or if they are auto-deleted.
See ya later, thanks for your help OE :-x
04-05-2011 5:23 AM
START AGAIN
The Ext3 drive is recognised, after some hesitation. I exported a one-hour drama from ITV-HD, it took well over 5 minutes, I'd say 😮 Blummin hopeless for exporting a large number of recordings.
All I need is to be able to read and edit the drive on my Windows7 netbook - at present it is not recognised, of course, except by EaseUS partition software.
04-05-2011 6:44 AM
You could try Ext2 IFS Scylla, which makes Ext2&3 accessible to Windows.
http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
04-05-2011 3:22 PM
04-05-2011 4:39 PM
It should run on W7 Scylla. Try installing it in Vista Compatibility mode.
04-05-2011 4:47 PM
Update
The above will work on W7 from what I can see, but it might be best to have a try with Ext2Fsd which will run on 7 without fiddling.
http://www.ext2fsd.com/
04-05-2011 4:51 PM
I wish you could edit posts on this forum.
A note on Ext2Fsd - you need to install it as Administrator (right-click the setup file and select "run as administrator".
04-05-2011 5:47 PM
Me too! 😞
I wish you could edit posts on this forum.
A note on Ext2Fsd - you need to install it as Administrator (right-click the setup file and select "run as administrator".
Done, but it's just showing me the same info as EaseUS does. "Fetch me a child of five" :_|
I wish to be able to see what recordings are on the drive and delete them or (perhaps) rename them. I still cannot see it in Windows Explorer or similar. Don't look askance, Grumps :-x
04-05-2011 6:37 PM
I believe you will need to give it a drive letter to mount it. It say's this in the faq -
Q) How to mount an ext2fsd partition or a volume ?
A) It's becoming easy with the help of the program "Ext2 Volume Manager". Just "right click" on the dialog list, and select "Change Drive Letter". Then you'll see the mount point dialog, you can add, change or remove any driver letters.
05-05-2011 7:01 AM
05-05-2011 9:38 AM
We got there in the end. 🙂 I'm pleased you got it working.
05-05-2011 1:44 PM
I spoke too soon. I cannot delete the file, Windows says it's write protected, I cannot see how to unprotect it. Attributes = N. Do you think it's because W7 cannot "edit" an Ext3 partition, even though it can see it?
If I cannot manage the disk on a Windows laptop, I'd have to re-import recordings to the Smartbox's hard disk and delete them there - an unacceptable solution X-(
I think "Ubuntu here I come". What's the smallest partition I could create on this Ext3 drive to install Ubuntu 11.04 on, reserving as much as possible on the rest of the disk for recordings?
(This is a dead loss 😞 500GB is the biggest I can get to match the drive in the Smartbox. The one-hour ITV-HD programme is nearly 3GB 😮 I don't suppose anyone knows of a 1TB+ AV drive?)
05-05-2011 1:48 PM
05-05-2011 2:03 PM
"I cannot delete the file, Windows says it's write protected"
I've not got the kit to set it up and test unfortunately Scylla, so it's hard to advise you. Try running Windows Explorer as administrator?
05-05-2011 4:24 PM
I've got Unetbootin and Ubuntu ready to go, intending to install on the Smartbox (F at the mo) which can be seen in Windows Explorer (attached).
(1) I cannot seem to select a specific USB drive in Unetbootin, but only one is attached so there won't be any disastrous installation on my netbook drive, will there? 😮
(2) Will the USB drive be formatted by the installation process, or should I do it first? (I'm going to format it first anyway, am just asking for future reference.)
(3) Should I adjust "Space used to preserve files....... = 0" ?
05-05-2011 6:41 PM
I take it the Smartbox is the 500GB/465GiB external drive?
The idea is probably not to use Unetbootin to install directly to that.
Use Unetbootin to install Ubuntu to a USB flash drive/thumb drive. Make sure nothing else is plugged in when you do so, and the default should be perfectly safe. Should... (Just make sure it's showing a USB drive.)
The flashdrive now works the same as a live CD - ie you can run Ubuntu from it; it just doesn't save anything between boots.
(I'd not noticed that option to preserve files between reboots in Unetbootin - I wouldn't use it just for a live flash drive.)
The flash drive to which you're installing Ubuntu should, paradoxically, be left in its standard FAT condition - typically FAT16 for a sub-4GB drive. (Discovered that through trial, error and rude words - no idea why it didn't work with the drive formatted to Ext3/4 or F32).
You might not even need a permanent installation of Ubuntu on your 500GB drive. Once you have your "live" flash drive working - ie you've successfully booted the netbook from it - , plug in the 500GB drive, see whether Ubuntu (running from the little flash drive) can see it and work with it.
If you do still want Ubuntu on the 500GB drive, you can install it from the live flash drive - using the "Install" option. Remove the hard drive from your netbook first.
Even if you tell it to install to the selected partition on the 500GB drive, Ubuntu will replace W7 on the netbook's MBR, including W& with Ubuntu in the GRUB boot menu. This means that you would only be able to boot into W7 with the external drive attached - very tedious.
So if you do try installing Ubuntu to the 500GB drive - it's easy - remove the netbook's own hard drive (I may have mentioned this before...), boot from the USB flash drive, plug in the 500GB drive and use the Ubuntu install option on the flash drive to install Ubuntu to the 500GB drive.
That will avoid GRUB demolishing your Windows MBR - more gen in my earlier waffle.
As far as the amount of space needed for Ubuntu is concerned - it will probably install to about 4.5GB - but I'd be inclined to go for a little more. I don't know whether giving it more room for caching temporary writes will speed up your file transfers, but suspect it might - as might a bit of swap space. Ubuntu will run quite happily without swap on anything over about 512MB RAM, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this will slow down file transfers.
I'd go for an 8GB ext4 partition for / and 2GB for swap.
But I'd really be happier if you wait for g-c or someone to comment on all this - only really posting now since they seem to be temporarily absent.
(Would hate to see Scylla trash her netbook. But would probably still generously offer her twenty quid for it if she managed to trash the OS...)
05-05-2011 7:14 PM
Sorry, I'm not doing a good job of expressing myself today. Perhaps I could just put a few things (as I understand them) in "point form" to help clarify my ravings:
1. Unetbootin is intended to created bootable live USB drives, allowing them to be used in the same way as a live CD
It does not actually "install" a distro.
2. Formatting - the flash drive used as the live/unetbootin flash drive should be formatted as FAT - ie its default. F32 might work on drives larger than 4GB; the drive need be no larger than 1GB for a typical CD-based distro.
When installing Linux permanently to a hard drive, I personally prefer to format the drive in advance. Optional.
In this case, it might simplify planning. An 8GB ext4 and a 2GB swap partition, for instance - on the 500GB drive.
3. GRUB (Grand Unified Bootloader) - when you fully install Ubuntu to your external 500GB drive, you also install GRUB.
GRUB looks for drives and operating systems already present, and helpfully sets up a dual-boot for you. If you installed Ubuntu to your 500GB drive but still had the netbook's own drive in place, GRUB would automatically install its initial stage to the netbook's own hardrive MBR - telling it to find the GRUB file on the Ubuntu installation on the 500GB drive.
Statrting the netbook with the 500GB drive plugged in would result in the GRUB screen appearing, with Ubuntu as the default first choice, but with 10 seconds to select Windows instead.
If you started without the 500GB drive connected, then you would get a GRUB error message - it would be unable to continue booting as its instructions are all on the now-absent 500GB drive.
That's why it's preferable to install Ubuntu to the external hard drive with the netbook's own drive removed.
(Hope that's a little less hazy.)
4. Unetbootin will simply create a bootable flash drive, allowing you to run Ubuntu as if from a live CD.
Once it's running, you will be given the option to actually install Ubuntu.
So Unetbootin makes the live flash drive - but you can only actually install Ubuntu to your 500GB drive while running the live flash drive.
Don't use Unetbootin to install anything to the 500GB drive - it'll just give you a "live" installation, and goodness knows how you would tell it to use the rest of the space for storage. I suspect the option to create storage space will only go up to about 4GB - it's designed for "persistent" installs - ie live flash drives with a bit of storage space.
So - create a live flash drive with Unetbootin; use the live flash drive to install Ubuntu on the 500GB drive. Make sure the netbook's own hard drive is removed first. See my first post for more on this ...
Hope this clarifies what I was trying to say - and that g-c or someone comes up with something simpler.
05-05-2011 8:22 PM
Well explained OE. I have just one comment - I don't actually see the point in installing the distro once the live flash drive is set up. Scylla shoulod be able to do everything she wants with a live session.
05-05-2011 8:33 PM
I went off to do my own thing - downloaded GParted to try to re-format the 500GB drive, but it's ISO ?:| Was told (we won't go into by whom, suffice to say I only ever get reluctant and truculent advice therefrom) to install PowerISO, which would make GParted operable. Then got into trouble for not downloading a cracked version, merely a trial one (which looks good enough cos it does 300MB and GParted is less than 150MB).
The upshot is that I cannot understand it at all, I'm very down-hearted and tearful, would like to lose my temper so I'm going to watch something on telly, maybe have something evil to eat, and come back and read OE's, Grumps's and any other posts when I feel better.
Thank you :-x
05-05-2011 8:46 PM
You can do whatever partitioning you wish in a live session. And you don't need PowerISO.
Do what OE has suggest to produce a bootable live flash drive, then just run from that and you can handle your ext3 partion.