new buyer protection fees

[katieslittleshop]

Buyers wont be interested in my small items. They were paying between £2.69 - £3.00. Now they will pay over £4.00. My ebay days are over 😞

[8tracksteve]

No Des , if you sell a £750 watch the fee becomes £21.72 as ive an item listed at that and ebay have added £21.72 on top

[8tracksteve]

Its only a minimum of 75p not a maximum the higher the value the more the buyer is charged .

[papso22]

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@8tracksteve wrote:

Its only a minimum of 75p not a maximum the higher the value the more the buyer is charged .

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The BPF is always worked on a fixed fee and percentage fee basis.  The 75p is fixed, the percentage differs according to the final price of the item, as it is tiered.  Of course the total goes up as the price goes up.

[8tracksteve]

At the end of the day ... it's a SCAM

[chelseachrisuk]

I was lead to believe that buying multiple items from the same multi listing would incur just one 75p BPF.
I've just had a sale and the buyer has been charged 75p for each item. (£6.75!) outrageous. 
That's almost 33% of the total order price inc. P&P! Scandleous 
I shall contact the buyer to point this out and encourage them to cancel their order.

[8tracksteve]

Yes Chris, totally outrageous

[desl4561]

That's true. You are charged 75p plus 4%.

If you listed an £800 watch the selling price to the buyer is £800 + 75p + £32 (4%). £832.75

For an item sold at £1.20 you are also charged 75p plus 4%

So the buyer is asked to pay £1.20 + 75p + 5p (4%) = £2

(nearly double the listing price).

That's why the 75p charge is so bad to private sellers of low value items. 

[chelseachrisuk]

Sussed out my confusion.
If your listing (is for one item) and you have 2 or more them to sell.If someone purchase 2 more they only get charged 75p once
If you listing has multiple different items (a multi-listing) If someone makes a purchase of 2 (different items) or more they get charged 75p for each different item purchased.
Sorry any confusion in previous posts
Chris

[desl4561]

Actually to be totally accurate I should have said this-

That's true. You are charged 75p plus 4%.

If you listed an £300 watch the selling price to the buyer is £300 + 75p + £12 (4%). £312.75

So the the fee to the seller ends up at a little over 4%

For an item sold at £1.20 you are also charged 75p plus 4%

So the buyer is asked to pay £1.20 + 75p + 5p (4%) = £2

(nearly double the listing price).

That's why the 75p charge is so bad to private sellers of low value items. 

There is a structure, which again is a little complicated.

• A flat fee of up to £0.75 per item, and
• 4% of the item price up to £300, and
• 2% of any portion of the item price from £300 to £4,000

Any portion of the item price over £4,000 won't incur any additional fee.

So, again,. eBay are really saying we don't want private sellers listing low value items.  They could have just said that but instead invented the weird buyer protection fee.

[chelseachrisuk]

Can you not advertise the watch for say £10 and make the postage £740 plus whatever you were going to charge.As I'm fairly certain the 4% levy only applies to the item purchase price excluding postage.
That would mitigate  a large part of the BPF., and an additional £1.15 on the price of a £750 watch is peanuts.
Take me back when I first started selling and buying on ebay, and you used to see items for sale at £1, but the postage was £500+

[goodibags]

If you have gold watches on a multi-buy at £10 each I'll take 15 of them.

[parsley2003]

Yes i sell small value items and am taking them all off and putting into sets so that there will be 75p for 10 instead of £7.50. As for combining postage best to ask buyer for permission to cancel then relist all together for them one fee one postage + of course the 4% of the price

[desl4561]

Yes I can remember that. The answer is you probably could do that. I think that's the reason eBay started to charge fees on postage cost as well as item cost 

Lol not sure I'd trust the seller 100% if they advertised a watch for £9.99 + £740 p&p royal mail tracked 48 😀😀

[desl4561]

That's  a good idea. You get charged 4% plus only one static charge of 75p.

If that works for you it sounds the right way to go.

I wish you the very best 

[chelseachrisuk]

Thought I'd keep a check on how many items are up for sale (in one category) now the BPF has gone live.I chose Vinyl 7" records for auction, as this was the category I used to use most.Three day ago there were 187,961 items for sale, today (15/2) there are 55,814.That's quite a significant decrease in a short space of time.I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of those 55 thousand are from businesses.
Unfortunately you can't filter on a private / business seller level.
I hope ebay are proud of themselves.But then again, just one sale with BPF reels in at least 76p 
whereas when no seller of buyer fees, they got zilch!

[8tracksteve]

Looks like they seen how much they lost in the free listing scheme then
thought of an idea to get treble it back. Feel like I'm being forced to
reduce my prices on a lot of items though some where already cheap enough.
Though working out the difference between what i had it listed for and what
they have added is a pain in the butt.

[desl4561]

Yes spot on. I tried to list an item for £8.99. This is now impossible to do. An item listed at £7.99 becomes £9.03 after buyer protection added. If you change the listing price to £7.95 the price after buyer protection is £8.98. If you change the listing price to £7.96 the price shown after buyer protection is £9.00. 

So it looks impossible to set an asking price of £8.99. 

Could be just me but that's what I found.

I think in the end eBay will just go back to final value fees. 

We all knew free listings couldn't last for private sellers. 

[insidethe93]

eBay, sort it out and quickly, before buyers leave and, importantly, establish new buying habits elsewhere.

[alexis*27]

Well you were paying the fee previously, so to maintain the (near) status quo you need to state that you will issue a partial refund of 75p per sale.

[8tracksteve]

75p is the minimum the higher value of an item the higher the fee is ,
because of ebay greed I've to lose? Better to find another platform to sell
on !