Ever wonder why people do it? Low offers

[annemann-2009]

Before anyone jumps in, yes I know you can set a starting off best offer 🥱

I'm just curious as to why people do the following. What's their mindset?

"Oh. I've been after that for months. How much? £60? Hmmm... Seems about right, a bit under what it's sold for elsewhere.

But. Look! Best offer! 

Excellent!

They'll love this. I'll send them an offer of...ooooo... £12. They'll lap that up. I'm a genius. Can't wait for it to arrive. 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

Just a tad extreme do you not think?

[annemann-2009]

Not really. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it 🤷‍♂️😊👍

[therenewalworkshopltd]

Remember that, when you are unable to complete an order for a reason out of your own control, or because you think the buyer may be dodgy etc.

That's when you should be banned and have the ability to sell removed going by the way your thinking.

People don't buy for all sorts of reasons, even if it's just a mistake and they changed their mind.

If you remove that and ban them, then you will kill the site.  Never mind breaching consumer law.

It really is an idiotic way of looking at it, with no thought at all behind it.

[annemann-2009]

You're a strange one. The way you talk down to strangers. Manners cost nothing. 

If someone has a real problem they can just message you can't they. Not ghost them. Easy. Same as if I couldn't send something. 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

I wasn't talking down, that is in your head.

Just stating facts.

You want to penalise someone, when they have no need to contact you, "to be polite"!

There is no requirement on Ebay for that at all.

And I was merely pointing out, that what you want to do is unfair and if it applied to you, for exactly the same reasons, you might actually understand that.

Along with you wanting to abuse consumer law.

[annemann-2009 · Accepted solution]

Your reply speaks volumes about you. Good luck in life. You probably correct people's grammar and write angry emails if a jam tart is misaligned in its packaging. 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

Nothing like a childish response to an argument.....

[annemann-2009]

I await your withering critique to appear in the daily mail sometime soon. 

[insidethe93]

messir44000 wrote: My record was a £10 offer for a £399 buy it now price.

Once I moped my drink off the floor, I declined.

"moped" is a nice spelling: I imagined a moment of feeling a bit down then picking yourself up and having that drink :-0)

The lowest I've offered was when a friend wanted a digital camera, back when it was new-fangled tech and what'd be cheap & basic now cost £1K then. My friend got me to negotiate with the shop assistant. I asked the assistant if he'd mind, he said go ahead. I said "I'll give you £5." (like Phoebe in the "Friends" episode "The One With The Ring"). The assistant laughed and it broke the ice. We eventually agreed 5% off for cash with some accessories thrown in. "Friends" can give you some good tips! 🙂

[vintage_clearout]

Just had the old 'would you take £200?' email (literal copy) on a £500 item.

At least, to be fair, they didn't waste time claiming to be a 25 year orphanage dweller with a Dad who died in 9/11 and buying the item for a government national safety campaign like the last goon.

[technthread]

I had that type of thing recently and accepted a lowball offer. They were fairly convincing and polite, the offer was just about enough that I could stomach it. What bothers me with these things is the buyers who pull at the heart strings hardly ever leave positive feedback once they get what they want. 

[vintage_clearout]

That (feedback) I could handle. When I was greener I would occasionally take the odd offer like this (not £200 on £500 mind) but say £250 on £350 [usually as offer £200, push back up to £250] when I wanted to get something gone, or thought I did. These people typically are already spending money they don't have, and tend to be very impulsive. They also frequently have regrets and in my experience are the most likely to go out of their way to find fault with something especially if it chimes with their deeper thoughts that they can't afford and/or shouldn't have bought it.

The worst trouble and most aggressive returns (in a poor state natch, not using any of the original packaging) and using 'free' (i.e. SNAD) returns was always from lowballers. So now, I just block.

[technthread]

That’s very true. It’s not unknown for people to re-list on eBay and if it doesn’t sell within the MBG timeframe they will return with SNAD reasons. I’ve seen a few forum posts like that. 

I guess a lot of these low offers work on sellers who don’t know the value. Not a great example but I’ve just sold a Henry Choice denim jacket for £25 on offer. It was on £15 start bid auction just listed, chat GPT told me to snap their hand off as it was the ceiling price. It still seemed a bit low to me but I took the advice of AI. I’m still not sure I did the right thing haha. 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

I don't think you have done that badly on it.  You might have got a little more, but not a great deal.

I have to say though, I have never even thought of using ChatGPT for that kind of thing.

How accurate is it usually?

[technthread]

Thanks that’s good to know. 

You know what, I really don’t like doing clothing but I’ve listed half a rail today using chat GPT to do my titles. It gave me so much information, I ignored a lot of it but it was really useful to get me started. There is a lot more you can push it for but it really did get me motivated to just list… I’m not sure I’d use it for categories I’m more comfortable in but maybe that will change.

I just took the photos and let it do its thing. 

It also helped me with suspected fakes by confirming that it believed they were fake too. 

[twofourdeltasurplus]

Offers like that get an insulting counter offer from me, then blocked

£300 item say, well my insulting counter to your insulting offer is £299.99