CAP PRIVATE SELLERS TO 100 ACTIVE LISTINGS - LIKE IF YOU AGREE - COMMENT IF YOU DONT

[moonspender]

So I lost out on some stock Sunday as was outbid ... a private seller listed them on ebay yesterday.

Ebay lose out on fees as a result

Reported but i dont expect action to be taken even though I could evidence where they were purchased - they didnt want this information ? Baffling

A real genuine private seller only needs 100 active listings ... this is the only thing that will get private sellers who are really business sellers to change to the business account and pay ebay the correct fees

[santlache_sales]

People, if they haven't already, will see right through this Buyer Protection nonsense for what it really is, a money generating scheme from eBay, especially when they see what the seller is listing it for, then the eBay money grab added that they also have to pay.

They really couldn't have screwed this site up more if they tried, you get the impression eBay management are running around like headless chickens, flapping away once they realised they'd made a massive screw up then coming up with some truely bizarre policies, Buyer Protection being one of many.

[santlache_sales]

I am being a lot more selective in what i list.....

So am I and I think a lot of other sellers are the same. Since December I have culled over 200 items and dropped a shop level, and what I chopped has already gone from my stock as I have a massive clearout. I haven't finished yet either.

I'm already saving over £50 in fees so eBay is clearly the loser here, multiply that by a good few thousand others and eBay's revenue must surely be taking a hammering.

I do hope so, it is high time they got as huge kick up the backside

[forestfeline62]

After 300 listings private sellers have to pay for every item over the 300 ,it is 35p  per item 

[santlache_sales]

You seem to forget, eBay always take the easy nonsensical option.

Like the 10% on P&P charge....

That was a right old scam and they used this excuse to say it was to combat sellers (from China and Hong King), listing an item for 99p with £15 P&P so as to avoid a FVF.

Of course they couldn't police this themselves, they'd rather use an additional money making scheme to boost their profits instead. A bit like this Private seller Buyer Protection,which is just yet another money making scam from eBay.

[santlache_sales]

A lot of these accounts have been reported numerous times and nothing, there is no viable way to actually report them, why not?

Probably because you would have to prove they actually are a business, i.e. lots of repeated item sales or a rather large stock of a certain item that a Private seller simply won't have.

I imagine a large part is their income which eBay are basing it on before they will look into anyone  - if someone is whacking out thousands each month regularly as opposed to a few hundred you'd expect from a Private seller.

Staff is also another major factor, what do they do, divert staff from other departments to look into this new problem ? the reality is they'll be needing a whole new department to look at it all and they currently don't have it, so don't expect any movement on this for some while.

[rainbowtrax]

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@forestfeline62 wrote:

After 300 listings private sellers have to pay for every item over the 300 ,it is 35p  per item 

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Only for new listings. What was being referred to is the unlimited free renewals each month.

[forestfeline62]

And if there aren't so many items for sale it won't be any good for buyers .private sellers had their selling allowance cut from 1000 items a month to 300 ,if they list more than the 300 they get charged 35 p per listing . so it isn't free for private sellers they have fees too . 300 listings works out at just over 70 a week  or 10 a day so not a lot . 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

10 per day is quite a lot.  It's certainly not a part time occupation.

Aside from which, whilst the private sellers get their 300 listings rolling over every month and an additional 300 every month, us business sellers have to pay for a shop, for a measly 250 listings.

So whilst that private seller has carried on listing for the next 6 months, they now have 1800 listings active, which haven't cost them a penny.  We on the other hand, have to go for the intermediate shop, which only gives you 1500 listings at a cost of £77 plus vat, then we have to pay another 5p per listing above that.  So to match said private seller, we have payout another £15, just to list!

Whilst I have no issue with genuine private sellers, Ebay have made it far too attractive for those dodgy sellers, to take advantage of this.  Which in turn, makes the marketplace unfair, in quite a big way.

I can see why some private sellers would need more than 300 a month, but in practical terms, there aren't that many people that will list 10 items a day, every day of the week.

If however more are needed, then there should be some sort of check on Ebay's side, to try and avoid the "private" business sellers.

They really need to police the site properly.  That would solve so many issues alone.

There then wouldn't be a need to for the buyer fee.  Though that in itself, should be accepted in time fairly easily.  As the likes of Vinted to exactly the same thing, though in a slightly different way and that has never been a problem.

[jokers_toybox]

Yeah as I'm paying for a shop subscription as a business seller I wouldn't mind those free relists that private sellers get so what I'm paying each month ALONG with 15-18% fees would be more acceptable.

As it is I'm delisting older products for newer ones and so there's potential sales I'm losing and FVF eBay is losing

It'd make this situation a whole lot more palatable. 

[jokers_toybox]

As a business I only list 5 new items a day to keep under that cap, If I had 300 free renewals each month, I'd be listing 300 new items a month, not 150 while removing older ones to keep under 250 (I did the 1500 one and it wasn't worth it) 

[forestfeline62]

 Why are there sellers too with lots and lots of negative and neutral feed back and ebay say they are top rated sellers and constantly give  good customer  service  . I had a bad year 2024  - 2025 and had a few late dispatches 8 in a year but i let the buyers know there would  be a delay and nearly all said not to worry they understood  ,but got a bad mark from ebay and today had a message from them that I need to step up and they will monitor me . They said I should make my dispatch time to a time that is best for me ,but in 2024 I put my dispatch time to 2 days to help me cope  ,but ebay told me I need to shorten my dispatch time because it will not   look good to buyers . Seems to me you can't win with ebay you can't do right for doing wrong , but if you have hundreds  of neg and neutral feedback you are a top rated seller .

[therenewalworkshopltd]

Perhaps you need to actually go and find out what you need to do, to be a top rated seller.....

[fjgjhgjkhkljkl_39]

It would be better for eBay to drop MVLs, listings with more than 1 available and the out of stock option for private sellers.

This would help retain that 300 cap of free listings.

I get listings can roll over (not sure why, they should probably drop that as well) but if the above was put in place the roll overs would at least only be listings that no one is buying rather listings with 50 available and the amounts topped up.

Maybe eBay should have just done away with 2 types of accounts and charged everyone 12% plus 30p and 100 free listings that don't roll over but probably a bit too late for that now.

[therenewalworkshopltd]

You can't have a single account for business and private sellers.

The fact of the matter is, that they require different things.

For example, do you think that actual private sellers, will be happy to have their name/address posted on every listing?

So that is never going to be a solution.

[fjgjhgjkhkljkl_39]

Fine have two accounts and make that the difference, it's not much of a sticking point. 

[therenewalworkshopltd]

Which is exactly how it is now, it's just the fees that are different!  Or didn't you realise that?

[fjgjhgjkhkljkl_39]

Fees, return requirements, there are now these EU regulation requirements.

If 10 years ago eBay just stuck everyone on the same plate there wouldn't be this disparity now.

I don't even think private sellers having a name and address on the listing is an issue any way.

As I said probably too late by now, eBay has far more competition than it did 10 years ago.

[moldosgifts]

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@forestfeline62 wrote:

After 300 listings private sellers have to pay for every item over the 300 ,it is 35p  per item 

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In a single month yes but private get another 300 the next month leaving the 300 they already have making 600, the next month 300 plus the 600 already listed and so on , as a Business sellers i get 1500 + 600 auctions at the end of the month they start again so can never go over the 1500 + 600 with out paying an extra fee. A private seller can accumulate a business seller cannot, How is that fair

[susapric-68]

Private sellers do not have to follow Distant selling regulations or the new GPSR. A lot of business stopped selling to NI because of the new GPSR but a business on a private account can sell to them

[1956glyn]

I am not sure if private sellers would mind their name and address being shown on listings.

We always put our name.....house number and postcode on all the items we send out. 

is there really much difference???......i honestly do not think there is