29-07-2014 10:57 AM
An interesting Article that has been puplished recently, to help us all understand the Basis of the Beliefs in Creation not Evelotution.
Just thought I would share with anyone who may interested in the answer to the title Question, as it may help you to at least understand the reasonings on the JW faith.
Who Made God?
Picture a father talking with his seven-year-old son. He says, “Long, long ago, God made the earth and everything in it, and he made the sun, the moon, and the stars.” The boy thinks about this for a few moments and then asks, “Daddy, who made God?”
“Nobody made God,” the father replies. “He has always existed.” That simple statement satisfies the child for now. As he grows older, however, the question continues to intrigue him. He finds it hard to comprehend how anyone could be without a beginning. Why, even the universe had a beginning. ‘Where did God come from?’ he wonders.
How does the Bible answer? Essentially, in much the same way as did the father in our example. Moses wrote: “O Jehovah, . . . before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.” (Psalm 90:1, 2) Likewise, the prophet Isaiah exclaimed: “Do you not know? Have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the ends of the earth, is a God for all eternity”! (Isaiah 40:28) Similarly, the letter of Jude refers to God as existing “for all past eternity.”—Jude 25.
Those scriptures show us that God is “the King of eternity,” as the apostle Paul describes him. (1 Timothy 1:17) This means that God has always existed, no matter how far back in time we cast our gaze. And he will always exist in the future. (Revelation 1:8) Thus, his eternal existence is a fundamental attribute of the Almighty.
Why do we find this idea difficult to grasp? Because our limited life span gives us a completely different concept of time from that of Jehovah. Because God is eternal, to him a thousand years are like a day. (2 Peter 3:8) To illustrate: Could a grasshopper, which lives as an adult for only about 50 days, fathom our life span of 70 or 80 years? Hardly! Yet, the Bible explains that we are like grasshoppers in comparison with our Grand Creator. Even our ability to reason is dwarfed by his. (Isaiah 40:22; 55:8, 9) So it is not surprising that there are aspects of Jehovah’s nature that escape full human understanding.
Although the concept of an eternal God may be hard to grasp, we can see that it makes sense. If someone else had created God, that person would be the Creator. Yet, as the Bible explains, Jehovah is the one who “created all things.” (Revelation 4:11) Furthermore, we know that the universe at one time did not exist. (Genesis 1:1, 2) Where did it come from? Its Creator had to exist first. He also existed before there were any other intelligent beings, such as his only-begotten Son and the angels. (Job 38:4, 7; Colossians 1:15) Clearly, then, he existed alone first. He could not have been created; nothing was in existence that could have created him.
Our own existence and that of the entire universe testifies to the existence of an eternal God. The One who put our vast universe in motion, the One who established the laws to control it, must have always existed. Only he could have breathed life into everything else.—Job 33:4.
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29-07-2014 12:44 PM
Gods were invented to explain the unexplainable, what causes lightening for example, as primitive man evolved into more sophisticated societies so did their gods and a section of the population became the mouthpieces of those gods.
Many civilisations believed in a pantheon of gods, Greek, Roman and the Norse gods for example, even the Australian Aborigines who had Baiame, his wife and sons.
The god of Abraham, Yahweh adopted by the Israelites originally came from the pantheon of Canaanite gods, Baal, Anat etc.
You could say that man made gods in his own image and gave them some sort of superpower since whole families of gods were invented.
There is no good reason to believe in the god now referred to simply as God than there is to believe in Odin, Zeus, Apollo or Vishnu, all have equal validity if any one of them has any at all.
As mankind learns more about the natural world, the space left for gods gets smaller and smaller, eventually apart from some diehards, it will disappear altogether.
29-07-2014 12:48 PM
29-07-2014 1:11 PM
The problem with using the Bible to prove anything is that it's simply not evidence any more than the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy is evidence that Vogons exist or the Lord of the Rings is evidence of Hobbits.
So you get circular reasoning along the lines of the Bible is the word of God because it says it is, the Bible is true because it says so in the Bible.
The supernatural cannot exist because if it was manifest it could be examined, if it can be examined it is part of the natural world and so is not supernatural.
29-07-2014 1:56 PM
This just about covers it:-
“If the facts don‘t fit the theory, change the facts.” Albert Einstein
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
29-07-2014 2:21 PM
when i was at school aged 9 or 10 i asked the teacher that question bad idea at a catholic school in the 60's i got the strap !!
29-07-2014 2:29 PM
The early Catholic church fought for well over a thousand years to prevent ordinary people from reading the Bible in their own language so they couldn't question it, in fact people have been burned at the stake for teaching children the Lord's Prayer in english not latin.
They knew that knowledge would decrease their power, attempts to deny knowledge still go on
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29-07-2014 7:31 PM
Who here believes in Fairy's? those little beings with wings that are sometimes mischievious. Any takers....................well anyone.
But the majority who say no such thing belive in a god................whose servants are beings with wings, who act either in a mischievious way or bring down all hell upon those who dont do their masters bidding.....................strange world we live in isint it!
29-07-2014 8:46 PM
If you don't believe in him, beg his forgiveness and worship him, he will cast you down into the lake of fire for eternal torment.
God is love.
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30-07-2014 9:19 AM
If Religion was eBay, it would have been shut down years ago. You don't find out that it's S.N.A.D until you're dead and then you can't open a dispute..............never mind having 45 Days. What a terrible way to be find out you've been conned and not be able to do anything about it.
30-07-2014 10:38 AM
@**bustysinclaire** wrote:
Sorry, that posted strangely and not how it was typed, I have lost my edit option too.
Busty, with respects would it not be better to serialize it? It is for most I would have thought difficult to digest that much. And I suspect some wouldn't even try?
However, I have tried. And to prove I have the late Mohadas Ghandi (known as Mohatma) said: ''Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs but not for every man's greed. Presumably too God would have hoped to provide enough for those that live by instinct and not greed...ANIMALS.
He also said you can judge a country by the way it treats it's animals. I noticed in your post no mention of animals? And do you know what some people think humans were creations only mistake?
Your first 7 words in your message 15: ''Will man ruin the Earth Beyond Repair''. Well I thought the rest of your post hardly inspires confidence that they wont ruin the earth. At the moment it seems to me they are. Well perhaps it's part of Gods master plan? But how cruel can plans be? Especially for so many innocent animals. Still they were only here mostly for our use weren't they?
BTW as far as I know there is no edit option.
30-07-2014 10:55 AM