Jehovah, the ultimate Parent, has the power to restore what his earthly children may view as hopelessly lost.
A parent who sent bears to rip apart children for simply making fun of an old man's bald head?
A parent who stood by while another parent sacrificed his daughter in his name possibly because he seems to be very fond of the smell of burning flesh?
A parent who ordered the slaughter of children on more than one occasion including babies in the womb?
A parent that deliberately engineered the deaths of the first born of Egypt?
A parent like that we can well do without.
If you count them God has either condoned or killed himself 2,821,364 men, women and children, that doesn't include those killed by the flood and many others for which actual numbers are not given.
The Old Testament is a book of myths and tales with a common theme, put simply it's obey God or else.
I don’t recognise a couple of your examples there, but you clearly are quite familiar with the scriptures in some shape or form so I will say you do seem to quote in parts rather than the whole of a chosen example which obviously will have the negative impact you desire to shock and discredit.
There are no accounts in the bible of any unjust punishments or destructions, on each account of any you will read of, the reasons behind God taking such drastic action and in each case the people involved, had plenty of warnings and knowledge of good or bad conduct, those people had always made the choice to oppose Jehovah., as with the flood.
Noah was instructed to make an ark for the survival of any who wanted to choose a righteous path. It took Noah many years to build that ark and during those many years he had a comission to warn people and give them the chance to learn about God and his purpose and why the flood was coming. That flood was coming because God was actually feeling regret that he ever created mankind because they had turned out to be wicked, Jehovah decided he had to cleanse the earth of the wicked so that the righteous would not suffer.
Don’t you as a parent make your home for you and your offspring and with the authority to do so set out bounderies for your offspring to live by, so you can all live in peace and harming, you expect those bounderies to be followed I am am sure that should those bounderies be overstepped then there will be penalties of one kind or another.
Don’t you expect mankind to live by the laws of the land and if such laws are broken you certainly don’t expect those transgressions to go unpunished, mainly because the ones commiting those offences knew what was law and what wasn’t, so wilfully breaking those laws.
The theme of the whole Bible is a teaching of who God is, his purposes, how those purposes were selfishly disrupted by mans failure to accept and appreciated God’s sovereignty and authority and Jehovah’s course of restoration back to his original purpose.
In the greatest of all demonstrations of his power, he resurrected his Son, Jesus, as a mighty spirit creature, making him second only to Jehovah
Ah yes, to forgive us for the original sin he himself created, he found it necessary to send himself down to earth, get himself killed then resurrect himself, wouldn't it have been simpler to just say "I forgive you"?
The resurrected Jesus appeared to hundreds of eyewitnesses. (1 Corinthians 15:5, 6) Even for skeptics, such evidence should be ample. Jehovah has the power to restore life.
But none of them thought to write about it or tell anyone who may have written about it themselves and heresay written down later by a non contemporary is not evidence.
In fact there is very little evidence to show a Jesus even existed and none whatsoever to show if he existed he was the son of God and performed miracles, no contemporary accounts outside the Bible mention him at all.
Nothing in the Bible is evidence for anything.
Not only does Jehovah have the power to restore the dead but he also has the desire to do so.
Just hasn't bothered for at least the past 2,000 years.
He did not create the sin himself he lovingly created perfect man with the freedom of choice. And as he and his son are two separate beings, then your reasoning of him sending himself down to earth is a bit of a misundestanding. Forgiveness couldn’t just be said because there were far greater issues involved than just forgiveness of the first disobedient act of eating the fruit. Satan had challenged God’s authority and sovereignty with several different claims and so God had to set in place a time span to allow those challenges to be answered, hence over 2,000 years later we are just coming to the conclusion and completion of those very issues.
After Armageddon, the survivors will see miraculous healings on a global scale
Ah yes, the good old Armageddon, sign of the death cult I mentioned earlier, do we have a new date to join the other failures of prophecy?
I became an atheist because nothing about religion made sense, every time I explored an avenue which seemed to go somewhere, I was brought up short by a massive contradiction or became stuck in the bog of 'why on earth?' so I am not going to waste my life running around after a non existent sky daddy.
Armageddon is a very real promise, I can understand why you say “death cult” but again if you learn from the Bible the reasons behind such a drastic destruction then you will see that is for the benefit all righteous mankind. It is doing away with everything wicked so that mankind can live in peace and security as Jehovah originally purposed. Jehovah is not stepping in when we have no warning he has given mankind 2,000 years warning and a chance to be part of the life after it.
There has never been any failed prophesies, (I do think I know what you are talking about here) what has happened is some humans have misunderstood the scriputres a little and put their own interpretations on some points and when those points haven’t actually turned out how they expected allowed themselves to be stumbled, instead of accepting they had made mistakes and humbly accepted correction they removed themselves from God direction.
Tommy.Irene wrote
I know a girl whos husband left the JW.. now she cant keep the sex mad elders away from her door..
I am not in the least surprised that that kind of comment came from you tommy and it certainly isn’t worthy of any reply………Galations 6:7 “Do not be misled. God is not one to be mocked, for whatever a man is sowing this he will also reap”
evoman3957 wrote:
Yes, that's us..........on that little insignificant ball; floating in an eternity of airless space. A tiny liferaft in the middle of an infinite ocean, where all history that ever was and all future that there ever will be........has and will happen. Now wouldn't you have thought that some almighty power, to whom, nothing is impossible; would have created something on a slightly grander scale and slightly less fragile.
One of the things which helped convince me was a certain lack of logic in the taking of three days to create the Earth and just one day to create the overwhelming vastness of the Universe.
If we take the fact that creating night and day took one day, how long would it take to do the same for the many billions of other planets we estimate to exist?
No contradiction of course if the writer of Genesis had absolutely no understanding of what those lights were that they could see at night.
I don't think those who believe the creation story are able to truly visualise the size of the universe or have ever studied it even to a small degree.
As for wars etc. man is part of nature and everything in nature is in conflict with their neighbours for their survival, apart from those organisms which have evolved to share resouces each utilising one that the other doesn't.
You could in a way blame science for overcoming many of man's natural restrictions, disease, accidents food supply etc and due to the increase in population both the liklihood and results of conflict over tribal and territorial conflicts being much greater than they once were.
It has been said of both Islam and Christianity that they must be right because of the numbers that practice those religions but there is nothing like using a sword held at the throat as a means of conversion and why is it that those who wish to leave are threatened with dire punishment, one to be killed and the other to burn in hell for all eternity?
Are not the beliefs good enough to stand on their own merits?
Is it not odd that we are often told we should be careful in what we say about a religion in case we offend someone's deeply held beliefs and yet anyone can thunder out that unbelievers have no morals and deserve to burn in hell for ever.
Presumably those who don't believe are not capable of feeling insulted.
Yes our planet is a very insignificant dot in the vast universe and in the stream of things but not so insignificant that Jehovah doesn’t care about us.
God tells us in the bible about all kinds of things about the universe, that he made it, that it was made millions and millions of years before out planet. He gives us information about specifics subjects and objects to give us an insight into the vastness of the universe so we can begin to understand where we stand in the great stream of things.
As for wars, diseases, natural disastors and the like, these are not just put down to nature
They are as a result of being so far removed from Jehovah and his protection. Science has not done such a good job at eradicated disease, many are again on the increase.
This planet of ours has an eco system built into it that can if allowed to function correctly sustain life for ever, can produce enough food for every single person. It is mankind’s mismanagement that is destroying the planet and it’s ability to sustain life, that is why Jehovah states in his word the Bible “I will bring to ruin those ruining the earth”
They are described in the bible as “critical times hard to deal with” all these things, even the conflicts between different religions are signs of the times we are living in, signs of the forthcoming judgement “Armagedon
Do conflicts actually exist in greater numbers now than in the past?
Yes, you only have to look at the 2 world wars. Previous to those there has never been war on such a great scale, since those 2 wars there are more parts of the world at war now than there ever has been since the world began.
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