Should Faith/Religion Have Such a High Value In Our Society?

lambsy_uk
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I'm not here to trample all over people's faith/beliefs but to ask if/why such beliefs should hold such high value in our society?

 

So where am I comming from? Well we can freely question almost anything in our society/lives; morals, political beliefs, actions and reactions, motivations, interactions, foreign policy, education, welfare, how we raise our children, law and order and so on..........

 

However we are positively discouraged from questioning people's faith/beliefs/religion! We are also actively encouraged to accommodate and allow for people's religious beliefs, and this is the bit that really irks me! Why is it that if something is done in the name of a religious belief/practice then we are expected to accept it with little fuss where if any other excuse were used we'd be up in arms?

 

We endure arguments of whether animal rights should take precedence over religion, whether saving the life of a child should take precedence over their parent's beliefs, should freedom of expression take precedence over religious sensitivities?

 

For me you may as well base stuff on the football team you support;

 

"I can't comply with the company dress code because I'm a United fan and therefore I must be allowed to wear a United shirt at work."

 

As far as I'm concerned this is no more ridiculous than anything done/not done in the name of religious beliefs!

 

So why do religious beliefs hold such high status and is it right that they do?

 

 

 

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A very thought provoking scripture from the Bible was read today.

 

 

And I would like to share it with you xxxxx

 

Psalms 94:1-23
 
94  O God of vengeance, Jehovah, O God of vengeance, shine forth!  
 Rise up, O Judge of the earth.Repay to the haughty what they deserve. 
 How long will the wicked, O Jehovah, How long will the wicked continue to exult? 
 They babble and speak arrogantly; All the wrongdoers brag about themselves.  
 They crush your people, O Jehovah, And oppress your inheritance.  
 They kill the widow and the foreign resident, And they murder the fatherless children.  
 They say: “Jah does not see; The God of Jacob does not take notice of it.” 
 Understand this, you who are unreasoning; You foolish ones, when will you ever show insight? 
 The One who made* the ear, can he not hear? The One who formed the eye, can he not see?
10  The One correcting the nations, can he not reprove? He is the One who imparts knowledge to people!
11  Jehovah knows the thoughts of men, That they are but a mere breath.
12  Happy is the man whom you correct, O Jah, Whom you teach from your law,
13  To give him tranquillity during days of calamity, Until a pit is dug for the wicked.
14  For Jehovah will not forsake his people, Nor will he abandon his inheritance.
15  For judgment will once again be righteous, And all the upright in heart will follow it. 
16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against the wrongdoers?
17  If Jehovah had not been my helper, I would soon have perished.
18  When I said: “My foot is slipping,” Your loyal love, O Jehovah, kept supporting me.
19  When anxieties overwhelmed me, You comforted and soothed me.
20  Can a throne of corruption be allied with you While it is framing trouble in the name of the law?
21  They make vicious attacks on the righteous one And condemn the innocent one to death.
22  But Jehovah will become a secure refuge for me, My God is my rock of refuge.
23  He will make their wicked deeds come back upon them. He will do away with them by means of their own evil. Jehovah our God will do away with them.

 

 

perhaps read 95 and 96 as well if you have a bible. I Find them very comforting and something worth taking notice of in life today. xx

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@cee-dee wrote:

Ah now that raises a story of convenience.

 

A cetain bloke was married to a woman for 25 years. When she died he married a widow but he also soon after married a 6 year old girl.... Within the space of ten years he took 12 or 13 other wives and several concubines. A lot of his faithful followers were scandalised so he had to resort to what he claimed to be special revellations from god to justify his conduct. Really?

 

A modern retort to that would be "You couldn't make it up" but he certainly did.


Sorry Cee-Dee I've never heard that story.  Could you tell me who the bloke was please?  Couldn't be Brigham Young could it?

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It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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@marshallhouse wrote:

@cee-dee wrote:

Ah now that raises a story of convenience.

 

A cetain bloke was married to a woman for 25 years. When she died he married a widow but he also soon after married a 6 year old girl.... Within the space of ten years he took 12 or 13 other wives and several concubines. A lot of his faithful followers were scandalised so he had to resort to what he claimed to be special revellations from god to justify his conduct. Really?

 

A modern retort to that would be "You couldn't make it up" but he certainly did.


Sorry Cee-Dee I've never heard that story.  Could you tell me who the bloke was please?  Couldn't be Brigham Young could it?


Some think, including many Muslims, that the prophet Muhammad (the messenger for The Quran) was engaged to a girl by the name of Aisha (sometimes spelt: Ayesha) when she was 6, and married her when she was 9 years old and he was about 50.

The marriage story in question is based on the reports by various companions of the prophet Muhammad, as recorded by others from later generations.

But..... In these reported sayings, there are discrepancies and contradictions regarding what her age was at the time of marriage.

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But don't you find all sorts of differences in these ancient scripts?

 

They've all been hacked about over the centuries, bits added, bits taken away to suit whoever was "in charge" of the writing and recording.



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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Oh CD, I would hazard a guess, and say that we are as one as to what we both really think about this particular subject.

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I'd go so far as the say that all these old scripts had a basis in fact, the fact being that the people now at the core of such things lived and walked the Planet but all of the things atributed to them were of their thoughts and of Earthly origin.



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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I find it rather odd that people say Jesus was a carpenter. I've got all their records and I can't recall him singing on any of them.
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I dunno.......would you Adam & Eve it.Smiley IndifferentSmiley HappySmiley Wink

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@cee-dee wrote:

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Eh?????

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@ronnybabes wrote:

@marshallhouse wrote:

@cee-dee wrote:

Ah now that raises a story of convenience.

 

A cetain bloke was married to a woman for 25 years. When she died he married a widow but he also soon after married a 6 year old girl.... Within the space of ten years he took 12 or 13 other wives and several concubines. A lot of his faithful followers were scandalised so he had to resort to what he claimed to be special revellations from god to justify his conduct. Really?

 

A modern retort to that would be "You couldn't make it up" but he certainly did.


Sorry Cee-Dee I've never heard that story.  Could you tell me who the bloke was please?  Couldn't be Brigham Young could it?


Some think, including many Muslims, that the prophet Muhammad (the messenger for The Quran) was engaged to a girl by the name of Aisha (sometimes spelt: Ayesha) when she was 6, and married her when she was 9 years old and he was about 50.

The marriage story in question is based on the reports by various companions of the prophet Muhammad, as recorded by others from later generations.

But..... In these reported sayings, there are discrepancies and contradictions regarding what her age was at the time of marriage.


Thanks for the explanation.  I was a bit wide of the mark with Brigham Young!

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Perhaps he means

 

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All that we are is what we have thought.
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Try & resist the urge to share it next time please😀




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I was touching My screen to see if it was Braille, for those of us whose eyes have not yet been opened............but alas......now I've just got fingerprints all over My screen.Smiley Indifferent

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OK, I give up........is that an albino Badger peering out of a snow storm......or what ?

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Morse code for MOHAMMAD





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No sorry, the last one's a full stop..........throws a different complection on things altogether.

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@evoman3957 wrote:

I was touching My screen to see if it was Braille, for those of us whose eyes have not yet been opened............but alas......now I've just got fingerprints all over My screen.Smiley Indifferent


 

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Morse code.  Clever.  Thanks.

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